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Offline Richard Knott

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Re: Any ideas what this 'crest' is?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 29 January 20 16:06 GMT (UK) »
It's similar to the Pemberton crest, but the cross is in the wrong place.
The description, however, matches pretty well.
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Re: Any ideas what this 'crest' is?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 29 January 20 21:20 GMT (UK) »
If it's a recognised crest you might find it in Fairburn's Book of Crests (I've had a quick look and can't see it)

https://tinyurl.com/thl3ljw  (descriptions - searchable)

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https://tinyurl.com/rc64uvw  (images)
Thank you. I can't see it so far but I'll keep looking.


It's similar to the Pemberton crest, but the cross is in the wrong place.
Richard
Thank you.

When dealing with a deceased person's estate a few years ago I discovered that Omega watches all have a unique serial number. This helps with dating and valuation etc, but I wonder if there might also be records showing where an individual watch had been bought?
Thanks, I'll enquire about that.

Can you tell us any more about that ring? No guarantees, of course, but if it was a wedding date, for example, someone here might be able to track something down.
Given that we are not sure which country the marriage took place in hunting it down is a mammoth task.
There is nothing really remarkable about the ring itself, it's a thin gold wedding band with the inscription "A.C. 26-12-1958", of couse those initials could be his partners or the first names of both of them.


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Re: Any ideas what this 'crest' is?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 29 January 20 21:27 GMT (UK) »
26th December is a Bank Holiday - I doubt that a marriage would have taken place in England or Wales on that day.

If the ring is gold there should be a hallmark.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Any ideas what this 'crest' is?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 January 20 09:23 GMT (UK) »
26-12-1958 presumably rules out the USA, anyway.


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Re: Any ideas what this 'crest' is?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 January 20 10:18 GMT (UK) »
Mebbes ran away to Gretna?  ;D

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Re: Any ideas what this 'crest' is?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 30 January 20 13:34 GMT (UK) »
26th December is a Bank Holiday - I doubt that a marriage would have taken place in England or Wales on that day.

If the ring is gold there should be a hallmark.

I don't think there's any reason in law why people shouldn't marry on Boxing Day (26 Dec). In 1958 it was a Friday, but I would have thought that anyone wanting a Christmas wedding might have preferred the 27th.

But if it is a wedding ring with a date, I'm not sure about it going back to 1958. The person died in about 1995, we've been told, and that inscription doesn't look to me as though it's been rubbing up against a finger for 37 years. Besides, wouldn't an inscription in a wedding ring usually have two sets of initials, or at least be something like "A & C"? As bearkat mentions, a hallmark would help.
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Re: Any ideas what this 'crest' is?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 30 January 20 13:39 GMT (UK) »
Further to your observations Arthur, would a man wearing a wedding ring in the 1950s be quite rare?

Of course it could have been purchased in the decades afterwards, or it may commemorate a different event and not be a wedding ring at all.

Nyx, was this ring on the appropriate ring finger?

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Re: Any ideas what this 'crest' is?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 30 January 20 13:48 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried identifying him via DNA?

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Re: Any ideas what this 'crest' is?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 30 January 20 13:48 GMT (UK) »
Do you have an estimated age for this man when he was found?

A year of birth of 1958 as opposed to a marriage date would possibly mean about 20 years (plus) age difference.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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