Thomas Morris

[wilcoxon]

When Thomas Morris married Elizabeth Mansell in 1870 in Staffordshire  he  states his father was James Morris, a collier.
In all census records from 1851  to his marriage and after he is with  his mother Ellen Chase and stepfather Richard Chase. Thomas was born St Martins, Shropshire
 In 1849 when Ellen Morris married Richard Chase she was a spinster.  and her father was Thomas Morris.
I can find Richard Chase in 1841, but not Ellen Morris.

 I can`t find a positive birth registration for Thomas but there is a baptism on FindMyPast that might be him. I searched with mothers name Ellen.
Morris   Thomas   1847   Shropshire Baptisms   St Martin's (Weston Rhyn Tithe Map),

Would some kind person take a look please, I`m only on Anc and can`t find this.

[Kay99]

30 May 1847 - Mother Helen but no father listed - address   Lodge

Kay

[Kay99]

I wonder if Ellen is listed in 1841 as -

Eleanor Morris age 14 a servant living at Barker Street, St Chad, Shrewsbury  allthough listed as not born in the county 

[wilcoxon]

30 May 1847 - Mother Helen but no father listed - address   Lodge

Kay

Thats great, thank you.
1861 Coseley Street
Richard Chase    33 coalminer b Welsh Hampton
Ellen Chase    34 b Lodge village Salop
Thomas Morris 14 son in law  stock taker in iron works, born Lodge village

[wilcoxon]

I wonder if Ellen is listed in 1841 as -

Eleanor Morris age 14 a servant living at Barker Street, St Chad, Shrewsbury  allthough listed as not born in the county 

Could be, the problem is Morris is such a common name 
Thanks for looking.

[Gadget]

Just wondering if this is Ellen's baptism in Selattyn.  I recall that Lodge (in my day!!) was in Weston Rhyn and not all that far from Selattyn

Selattyn 17 Sept 1826, Eleanor Morris, d of Thomas (labourer) and Mary of St Martins parish

Gadget

[Gadget]

There is an outside possible for her at Morda 'House of Industry' in 1841

House of Industry, Weston Cotton, Oswestry
Eleanor Morris, 13,  b. County
HO107/915/1/68/4

Gadget

[Gadget]

Also one in St Martins as a servant though not born county!

Eleanor Morris, 15, Servant, not born county
HO107/916/3/17/3


Gadget

[Gadget]

I  noticed that on your other thread that Thomas was listed as born Pontfaen on one of the censuses. That's the area just on the border of the Chirk and St Martins (Weston Rhyn Tything). My Stokes family came from there!