Birth lookup

[Sue Greene]

Hi all,
Hoping someone might be able to help.
I am trying to find the maiden surname of my great great grandmother.
I have not been able to prove the birth of my great grandmother as her name is Mary Ann Brookes, to many to guess around the year of her birth 1852. However I have found the birth of her older brother.
His name was Lees Brooks born 1848 Saddleworth Yorkshire. Lees died 7 Feb. 1852 aged 3. Registered in Lancaster.
I have his parents James and Sarah Brooks. The surname is sometimes recorded as Brooks and Brookes. I have the family on the 1841, 1851, 1861 census in Oldham and Hulme.
Is there any possible way of finding a birth or Chr. for this child that just might give his mothers surname?
I have checked Find My Past, The Genealogist that is where I found the birth, and also checked Ancestry.
They also had another child called either Edda, Edd or Edola but have not found a birth for this boy.
I think they gave Lees his Chr. name as they lived next door to a Lees family on the 1851 census in Saddleworth. Perhaps they liked the name or liked the family. At least they were thinking outside the box for once.
Failing that I will bite the bullet and order the birth certificate. But thought I would see if anyone had any other suggestions or help.
Many thanks
Sue in NZ.

[CaroleW]

Lees mothers maiden name was Dunkerley as per

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Ann Brooks mmn Dunkerley Dec qtr 1852 Saddleworth 9a 213
Ada Brooks  mmn Dunkerley Dec qtr 1850 Saddleworth 23 604

[CaroleW]

Eldest son b Oldham 1836 so also this birth

Birth of James Lees Brooks mmn Dunkerley March qtr 1844 Ashton & Oldham
Child died Saddleworth Dec qtr 1847

[Jamjar]

Their marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFXF-6PR

The register image is on page 335.

Jamjar

[CaroleW]

Jamjar just  beat me to it   

[Jamjar]

Got to be quick to beat you, Carole. 

There is a tree that has James and Sarah having 15 children  :

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LCZD-L14

Jamjar

[Sue Greene]

Got to be quick to beat you, Carole. 

There is a tree that has James and Sarah having 15 children  :

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LCZD-L14

Jamjar

Hi there
Thank you so much.
I don't usually take much notice of family trees on Family Search.
Found one of my families they had so much wrong information and I had the certificates in front of me.
I see they have my grandmother as Ann and not as Mary Ann. Everything I have on her she is Mary Ann even her headstone. I will have a look at it but will treat it with a bit of caution as I always do with online trees these days.
I will now digest it all.
Thank you all so much.
Cheers
Sue

I have had a look at the tree. Have also found there are sources which seem to be mainly census and parish records so it's not an imagined tree.
There was also a link to contact the person so have emailed to see if anything comes back.
Will let you know what happens next.
Thanks again
Cheers

[Jamjar]

As provided by Carole, her birth is registered with GRO as Ann.

She is Anne on the 1861: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7K9-N5G

Jamjar

[Sue Greene]

Got to be quick to beat you, Carole. 

There is a tree that has James and Sarah having 15 children  :

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LCZD-L14

Jamjar

I have been looking at the tree online.
It would seem some of it is my family but another tree is included.
The Richard, is right the John on the tree is not, Samuel is right, Lees, Edda, Ann, Hannah and Sarah are all mine but the rest of them are not including I now feel neither are they the right parents.
when clicking on the sources this other family is all from Staffordshire according to the census records.
Also this James Brooks is still alive in 1871. My Sarah is a widow by 1871.
Was worth checking it out.