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Gertrude Hill and Harry Down Bristol
« on: Tuesday 04 February 20 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I was wondering if someone could help me trace Gertrude Hill and Harry Down who were living in Bristol c 1917? I don’t have many other details unfortunately.

Many thanks
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Re: Gertrude Hill and Harry Down Bristol
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 February 20 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Were they related?  If so - in what way?

How do you know they were living in Bristol?

How do you know their names but nothing else?

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You must know they married in 1915 as per freebmd and that she was Gertrude E Hill so have you used freebmd to check for any children?

Have you looked on the 1939 register?  I can see an entry for them in Gloucs with full birthdates.  That info should help to find their births on freebmd

If you really know nothing else about them then you need to buy a copy of their marriage cert to get their respective fathers names

Have you checked the 1911 census for them?



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Re: Gertrude Hill and Harry Down Bristol
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 February 20 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi they were husband and wife. They aren’t related to me, I’m trying to find out in behalf of someone else.
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Re: Gertrude Hill and Harry Down Bristol
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 February 20 13:18 GMT (UK) »
Some details of the marriage , including fathers' names , are available at no cost here :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTQN-3XF

You just need to register on the website. You can  search for relevant census records there also.
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Re: Gertrude Hill and Harry Down Bristol
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 February 20 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi
So you don't have to log into Familysearch
Harry Down married Woolcot park St Saviour 6 .11.1915
father John Down
Gertrude Edith Hill d of Alfred Hill

Harry was born 1878 and Gertrude Edith Hill 1887
Death for Harry Mar 1979 gives a birth 23rd June 1878.
Census 1901 gives father John Down carpenter born 1844 Werrington Cornwall  and Annie born 1842 Kelly Devon
Gertrude Edith born Clutton Sep 1887 mother's maiden name Vincent.
She's in service 1901 /1911
1891 Midsommer
Alfred Hill born 1849 Oakhill and Elizabeth M Hill born 1849 Tanerton F.

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Re: Gertrude Hill and Harry Down Bristol
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 February 20 14:27 GMT (UK) »
There is a Public Members Tree on Ancestry with includes a copy of the marriage certificate (which is also on Ancestry - Bristol, England, C of E Marriage and Banns.


Harry DOWN aged 37, Bachelor, occupation: Clerk - residence: 200 York Road, Bedminster

(father John DOWN, Carpenter)

Gertrude Edith HILL aged 28, Spinster, residence: 37 Brighton Road, father: Alfred HILL (deceased) occupation: Plasterer.



witnesses: George HAZELL and Edith M S HILL

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This tree gives the death Gertrude Edith Hill - as April 1941, Norton, Somerset

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Re: Gertrude Hill and Harry Down Bristol
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 February 20 15:07 GMT (UK) »
????

Not sure if there is 'confusion' over Harry's parentage/dob - as can follow a Harry Goman DOWN - mother's maiden name not quoted - 1877 S Quarter in Launceston (through the various census returns)

There is a tree on Ancestry, for Henry Goman DOWN - parents: John DOWN and Mary JASPER (1844-1933) - married 26 March 1867, Davidstow, Cornwall - and Mary DOWN is on an1881 census, Widow aged 38, General Servant, (Domestic) born Cornwall, Launceston.

? was John DOWN a Ship Carpenter

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On GRO Index, there is also

DOWN Robert GOWMAN - mother's maiden name: JASPER
GRO Reference, 1881, S Quarter in Lanceston, Volume 05C - Page 26

and

Alice GOWMAN DOWN - 1885 - Launceston, mother's maiden name: JASPER

Alice is also on the 1891 Census, as an inmate at Launceston, St Mary Magdalene - next to Emma DOWN aged 7.

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Births: Bristol District Dec 1917

Joan G DOWN - mother's maiden name: HILL


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Re: Gertrude Hill and Harry Down Bristol
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 February 20 20:44 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much Ciderdrinker, Christine and Capetown. You have all been very helpful. I will go through this all and digest.
MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867. HOBSON Tyrone