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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 20:02 GMT (UK) »
I think the birth as Humphrey is an error in transcription or initial certificate, as there are several more for Humphreys/Evans in Carmarthen - though they do not have to be his siblings.

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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 20:18 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, just looked again at the probate for Martha Jane Evans in 1940 - probate to Florence Edith Buchan = single woman. = never married (IMHO).  Only time will tell  :-\ :-\

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 20:42 GMT (UK) »
I have ordered the marriage certificate for Florence Williams and David W Humphreys and the will of Martha Jane Evans. My hunch is, they did not marry, this will be a different couple. Finding her father's name (Thomas Williams – Deceased) should clarify. If it is their marriage, then there will need to be a divorce before she could marry James K Buchan.

I feel Florence E Williams born in 1928, is her illigitimate child, possibly by David W Humphreys as his mmn was Evan. It is likely the Williams and Evans families knew each other as they were marrying.

There is a death registration for James Kennedy Buchan . Apr-Jun 1993 in Carmarthen . Birth 05 Jun 1907 . Volume: 8181A . Page: A10F. There is also a death registration for Kenneth Buchan . Jan-Mar 1995 . Carmarthen . Birth 1942 . Volume: 8181A . Page: A15F. I assume he was their son.

Is there any way of finding other children?
The dates are not available on the GRO and I found nothing on Family Search, only a death that points to a birth. It is not a common name in Carmarthen.

Thanks to those who provided an explanation for the corrections. I do struggle with the 1939 Register and all its corrections.

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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 20:46 GMT (UK) »
Just to point out, and remind - there are no "Corrections" to the 1939 Register - there are "UPDATES".

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 21:09 GMT (UK) »
" There is also a death registration for Kenneth Buchan . Jan-Mar 1995 . Carmarthen . Birth 1942 . Volume: 8181A . Page: A15F. I assume he was their son."

Have you found the birth for Kenneth on freebmd?

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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 21:17 GMT (UK) »
James Buchan might not show on the 1939 register because he could have been in Scotland.

Birth
James Kennedy Buchan  1907  479/573  Falkirk


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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 11 February 20 22:41 GMT (UK) »
I cannot find him on FreeBMD.
His death was registered in Carmarthen.
Was he born in Scotland?
Was Florence Edith in Scotland?
Is Florence Edith the mother?

The death registration says his birth was 05 Jun 1907

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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 12 February 20 08:10 GMT (UK) »
I think you have got to stop assuming anything and get the certificates/wills for extra help.

Who are you descended from, or what is your starting point?

Yes, the birth I found for a James Kennedy Buchan was in 1907 in Falkirk, Scotland.  If he was in the army/navy/airforce he could have met Florence some time during the war, or could be already in England for whatever reason and not showing because enrolled.

The missing birth for Kenneth Buchan definitely needs investigating - but you do not know that he is definitely related, just probable.

If Florence E Williams is her child, get the certificate for check that she shows as Mother.  If Florence E married Mr Payne, get the marriage certificate to check no father showing. As Florence E Payne is dead (?) get certificate to confirm, and why is she still redacted on 1939 - if you think you know where she is, apply to get 1939 opened.

Who is the other Williams in 1939 in the household?

You have put
'I feel Florence E Williams born in 1928, is her illigitimate child, possibly by David W Humphreys as his mmn was Evan. It is likely the Williams and Evans families knew each other as they were marrying.'
Do you mean that you believe the E stands for Evan, or have you seen that somewhere?

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Re: Correction on 1939 Register - Florence E Williams/Humphrey/Buchan
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 12 February 20 08:51 GMT (UK) »
From Falkirk Herald, April 1941