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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #27 on: Monday 24 February 20 15:03 GMT (UK) »
The image of the marriage of Frederick Cocroft and Maud Pember can be found on Anc...y.

The address that both parties give is 12 Pemberton Terrace. Maud's father Harry Pember, a French Polisher. Frederick is a soldier.

This same address can be found on the incoming (to England) passenger list for the 1932 trip that Maud and her daughter took. Perhaps this might help to connect a few dots.

Frederick served with the Canadian Army (CEF) in WW1. This link is to his complete digitized service record (courtesy of Library and Archives Canada). There are 33 pages. It will be very slow to download.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B1833-S023

It appears that the daughter named in Don's obit has a tree on Anc....y. If you have a sub, perhaps you might be able to make contact with her. She has Frederick Cocroft and Maud Pember as parents to D M. She also has a death of 2018 for D M but no details to corroborate the info so I have chosen to just use her initials.

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #28 on: Monday 24 February 20 15:27 GMT (UK) »
A possible for William Laurent - 15 October 1888 - January 1976
Issue year Before 1951 - Issue State New York
Last Residence 85002, Phoenix, Maricopa, Arizona.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JBG4-J24

WW2 Draft - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRP3-X5T?i=1024&cc=1861144&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AF3Z2-3J4

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #29 on: Monday 24 February 20 16:09 GMT (UK) »


Arizona Republic Phoenix, Arizona 11 Jan 1976, Sun    Page 64

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/45535104/william_laurent_11_january_1976/

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #30 on: Monday 24 February 20 16:12 GMT (UK) »
Obituary Donald Beck (husband of Helen Beck)


Arizona Republic Phoenix, Arizona 12 Dec 1980, Fri   Page 35

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/45535281/donald_beck_12_december_1980/

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #31 on: Monday 24 February 20 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm WW2 Draft Card  ??? - Donald Arthur Beck born 2 January 1903 Columbus Ohio- aged 39 years -
Registration Date 15 Feb 1942 - Registration Place Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Employer American Machine and Foundry Co
Weight 150 Complexion Light - Eye Colour Hazel - Hair Colour Brown - Height 5 11
Next of Kin Helen Beck.

Arthur D. Beck - Birth Date 2 Jan 1903  Columbus, Franklin, Ohio
Father Arthur Anderson Beck - Mother Lillian M. Kastner

Father listed on FIND A GRAVE - with photograph

Green Lawn Cemetery Columbus, Franklin County, Ohio.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/68810177

mother -  Lillian Margaret Kastner Beck.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/68649074/lillian-margaret-beck

sister - Dorothy Margaret Beck

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/67827222/dorothy-margaret-beck

Arthur Beck 1873 - 23 June 1939 Kings New York
Age:   66 - Certificate Number 13939

parents married Michigan


Arthur Beck - 1872 - marriage 8 September 1901 Detroit Wayne Michigan - aged 29 years 
Father George Beck - Mother Catherine Egroff - Spouse Lillian Kastner

1910 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLYP-CVJ



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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #32 on: Monday 24 February 20 18:46 GMT (UK) »


1940 census  Kings, New York.

Donald Beck   37 born Ohio. Radio Oper.
Helen Beck   37 born England. Housewife.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ1T-42H

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #33 on: Monday 24 February 20 18:55 GMT (UK) »
City Directory - 1952/1956 - 2212 Westward Blvd AAL 3-3792 Arizona - Donald A Beck and Helen Beck -

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 25 February 20 09:01 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone, I have a feeling that the Laurent link is  a red herring. I cant seem to find a marriage between my Doris Cocroft and a Mr Laurent.

Unless she changed her name to Helen Beck?
here goes....
BATSON - Norwich then London
RAWLINS -  London
JENNER - Sussex then London
SEAL - London
MARNS - Ireland(?) then London
POWELL - Wales then London
BENSTED - Kent
DODSWORTH - Yorkshire
LARGE - London
DORTON - London
ALEXANDER - Scotland then London
BARNARD - ?
JUSTICE - Ireland then London
HILTON - London
ZIMMERMAN - London?

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Re: Pember married Cocroft in New York and London? 1919
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 25 February 20 09:09 GMT (UK) »
The image of the marriage of Frederick Cocroft and Maud Pember can be found on Anc...y.

The address that both parties give is 12 Pemberton Terrace. Maud's father Harry Pember, a French Polisher. Frederick is a soldier.

This same address can be found on the incoming (to England) passenger list for the 1932 trip that Maud and her daughter took. Perhaps this might help to connect a few dots.

Frederick served with the Canadian Army (CEF) in WW1. This link is to his complete digitized service record (courtesy of Library and Archives Canada). There are 33 pages. It will be very slow to download.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B1833-S023

It appears that the daughter named in Don's obit has a tree on Anc....y. If you have a sub, perhaps you might be able to make contact with her. She has Frederick Cocroft and Maud Pember as parents to D M. She also has a death of 2018 for D M but no details to corroborate the info so I have chosen to just use her initials.

PB

Ah you are correct, I have messaged her. She seems to sign in regularly so hopefully she can get back to me. I do message quite a lot of people on that site but dont really hear back!
here goes....
BATSON - Norwich then London
RAWLINS -  London
JENNER - Sussex then London
SEAL - London
MARNS - Ireland(?) then London
POWELL - Wales then London
BENSTED - Kent
DODSWORTH - Yorkshire
LARGE - London
DORTON - London
ALEXANDER - Scotland then London
BARNARD - ?
JUSTICE - Ireland then London
HILTON - London
ZIMMERMAN - London?