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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #108 on: Tuesday 17 March 20 15:06 GMT (UK) »
We are all stocked up...Wine, Chocolate, Books and Jigsaws relatives have just brought us wine supplies bought in France two weeks ago, we won't be touching it for three days ;D ;D
Seriously though, we have been out for fresh bread and milk and have decided to keep provisions stocked up to last for a fortnight, the given duration of total isolation in the event of catching the virus. We both wore gloves whilst out and about.  We cleaned the bins wheelie bins this morning after they had been emptied.
It is worrying times for all of us, the Heritage Centre where I am a volunteer has closed today until further notice. Our son is currently working at Offut Air Force Base in Omaha, where he is training recruits in aircraft operations and controls and doesn't yet know know whether he will get out of the country in three weeks time  :-\
Daughter and SIL have their own business and say that business has fallen dramatically over the last week.
If everyone takes responsibly for their own welfare and follows Government guidelines appropriate to their age and circumstances that will hopefully helps to ease the spread of the virus. I feel that it's going to be a long road to recovery.
Stay safe and take care.
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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #109 on: Tuesday 17 March 20 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Nick, "following a French model" sounds like an excellent idea.

Be careful, her boyfriend might be a young policeman.

Mart - Viktoria won't be too pleased with you if you do that. Although only yesterday she was hoping to nab a young policeman to escort her home --- so yes - get your own back!

The UK police don't (yet) have the powers to fine people on the spot, so being escorted home might still be an option. But Viktoria needs to get a move on as I think the emergency legislation coming later this week will give the Police peacetime powers none of us have ever seen the like of in the UK.

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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #110 on: Tuesday 17 March 20 15:11 GMT (UK) »

Also having USAF families for neighbours was a constant reminder we might only be days away from bright flashes in the sky followed by an urgent need to stay at home and survive on what we had in the house.


I rather suspect, despite the advice given in that work of fiction, namely the "Protect and Survive" booklet, that should you have seen those bright flashes in the sky or anywhere else, then you would not have had a home and, should you have survived initially, you would have not lasted very long thereafter.
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« Reply #111 on: Tuesday 17 March 20 15:53 GMT (UK) »
I've just been stopped by the gendarmes on the way back from the vet. I'm glad I had my attestation filled out - instant fine otherwise.

Mike, do you know what the situation might be for people travelling, in a motorhome, through France en route for the tunnel? My friends got out of Spain, into France, a few days ago but have to travel up to Calais for their crossing on Friday. Just wondering?

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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #112 on: Tuesday 17 March 20 15:58 GMT (UK) »
I've just been stopped by the gendarmes on the way back from the vet. I'm glad I had my attestation filled out - instant fine otherwise.

Mike, do you know what the situation might be for people travelling, in a motorhome, through France en route for the tunnel? My friends got out of Spain, into France, a few days ago but have to travel up to Calais for their crossing on Friday. Just wondering?
My guess is that they'd be OK, as it would be easy enough to explain to any gendarme what they were doing. I think most spot checks would be in and around towns rather than on the motorways. To be on the safe side, though, I would print (or write out) one of those forms and fill it in, just in case they meet a particularly awkward officer.

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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #113 on: Tuesday 17 March 20 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Mike, I shall probably be in touch with them later so will let them know - if they don't already.  :)
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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #114 on: Tuesday 17 March 20 16:02 GMT (UK) »


The UK police don't (yet) have the powers to fine people on the spot, so being escorted home might still be an option. But Viktoria needs to get a move on as I think the emergency legislation coming later this week will give the Police peacetime powers none of us have ever seen the like of in the UK.

Not sure about that. Last night it was said that it will be reviewed in three weeks and if people haven't been following the request to social distance, and to stay away from bars, restaurants etc then they will bring in laws to enforce it. People do seem to be taking note judging by the way places are shutting down - all the theatres, sporting events, religious gatherings and so forth.

A friend who is a mobile hairdresser works two days in a care home, so she's been told not go in. Family are not allowed either unless someone is on their death bed. She was telling me there is on lady there who has been married 60 years and her husband visits her everyday, but he's not allowed  in. Very sad.
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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #115 on: Tuesday 17 March 20 16:07 GMT (UK) »
I rather suspect, despite the advice given in that work of fiction, namely the "Protect and Survive" booklet, that should you have seen those bright flashes in the sky or anywhere else, then you would not have had a home and, should you have survived initially, you would have not lasted very long thereafter.

None of us know how many (if any) would have survived, but evidence from Hiroshima and Nagasaki suggests a reasonable percentage of the population some distance from a small-scale event would have survived. And the risk wasn't just about an all-out war, there was also the potential for USAF personnel to get a bit careless or unlucky.

It has become quite fashionable to mock "Protect and Survive", but some of the comments are based on a misunderstanding of what it was really about. Obviously you won't survive if you are very close to a nuclear explosion, but for people further away it was important to know what to expect and to use simple mitigation techniques to try to maximise the chances of survival.

We've actually seen the same thing with coronavirus. The initial advice about washing your hands was subjected to ridicule, less so now.

In terms of the 1980 booklet, the statement "Everything within a certain distance of a nuclear explosion will be totally destroyed" (page 5) wasn't fiction. Neither was the advice on page 14 (to stock food for 14 days) or page 15 that reminded people of the need to have soap and toilet rolls.

Taken as a whole it may well have had more value as propaganda than anything else, but the kernels of advice contained within it were true, and many of them remain relevant today.

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Re: State of Emergency, Coronavirus (part 2)
« Reply #116 on: Tuesday 17 March 20 16:11 GMT (UK) »
I've got a terrible confession. I went out to a local small supermarket to get salad for the next 3 nights and my favourite wine was on special offer, £1 off per bottle so I had to panic buy and get 6.

Martin

I am so glad you posted this. On my OH's 80 birthday he received a simply delicious CduR wine which we were told came from Sainsburys. We searched for it but it wasn't from S but from Aldi and it was only £4.99. I bought 6 bottles yesterday at Aldi but was so embarrassed to be stopped at the checkout for trying to purchase 6 of something! Did I blush and another customer laughed and said "well, you won't get drunk now"!

Joking apart, it's a good thing to prohibit multiple purchases, I think. 😉

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