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Smillies
« on: Monday 16 March 20 21:51 GMT (UK) »
My maternal grandmothers maiden name was Smillie, her dads dad was Joseph Douglas Smillie, 1896-1964. I am trying to figure out who his parents are but I'm not sure.
Joseph Married Isabella Brown Little, niece of famous scottish MP James Brown.
They had 3 children, Isabell Smillie 1921-1994, John Smillie 1923-1996 (my great grandpa) and Ann Smillie 1925-2013. Joseph had a brother called Robert Smillie.
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Re: Smillies
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 March 20 22:05 GMT (UK) »
My maternal grandmothers maiden name was Smillie, her dads dad was Joseph Douglas Smillie, 1896-1964. I am trying to figure out who his parents are but I'm not sure.
Joseph Married Isabella Brown Little, niece of famous scottish MP James Brown.
Dead easy to find out - no need to 'figure out' anything.

Joseph Douglas Smillie married Isabella Brown Little in Tarbolton in 1920. Their marriage certificate will tell you the full names of both sets of parents including their mothers' maiden surnames. Get it from Scotland's People.
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Re: Smillies
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 March 20 22:12 GMT (UK) »
SMILLIE JOSEPH DOUGLAS to LITTLE ISABELLA BROWN 1920 619/16 Tarbolton

So will his birth cert:

SMILLIE JOSEPH DOUGLAS M 1896 619/22 Tarbolton

As would his death cert:

SMILLIE JOSEPH DOUGLAS 68 1964 619/25 Tarbolton

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Re: Smillies
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 March 20 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Two families with the same reference. I’d guess that his folks are John and Annie, given the names of the children of Joseph Douglas Smillie.

My guess:

1901 census: 619/ 7/ 3 Tarbolton Ayr
John 45
Annie 38
Robert 34
Janet 27
William 14
Annie 11
Robert 9
Robert 7
Christina 7
Thomas 5
Joseph 4
John 3
Mary 1

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Re: Smillies
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 March 20 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Another with more than one family:

1911: 619/ 6/ 4 Tarbolton Ayr
John 50
Annie 46
Robert 44
Janet 37
William 23
Archie 25
Robert 18
Robert 17
Joseph 15
Thomas 15
Andrew 13
John 13
Mary 11
William 9
Allan 8
Annie 7
Janet 6
John 5
Samuel 5
Hugh 3
Alexander 2
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Re: Smillies
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 March 20 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage:

SMILLIE JOHN to DOUGLAS ANNIE 1884 619/3 Tarbolton

Births and death?:

SMILLIE GRACE DOUGLAS 1885 619/ 87
SMILLIE GRACE DOUGLAS 0 1885 619/ 40 Tarbolton

SMILLIE WILLIAM 1887 619/ 23 Tarbolton

SMILLIE ANNIE DOUGLAS 1889 619/ 103 Tarbolton

SMILLIE ROBERT 1891 619/ 93 Tarbolton

SMILLIE CHRISTINA DICKS 1893 619/ 125 Tarbolton - I think she may be Christina Dickson Smillie

SMILLIE JOSEPH DOUGLAS 1896 619/ 22 Tarbolton


I think this may be them in 1891, as SMYLLIE: 619/ 8/ 5 Tarbolton Ayr
John 30
Annie 27
William 4
Annie 1

1 fitting death: SMELLIE JOHN 79 1939 619/ 45 Tarbolton

Possible death for Annie, as listed both as Annie SMELLIE and DOUGLAS: 71 1934 578/1 389 Ayr

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Re: Smillies
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 March 20 00:59 GMT (UK) »
Marriage: SMILLIE William to  DICKSON Christina 1855 612/ 6 St Quivox and Newton On Ayr

1861: 619/ 6/ 14 Tarbolton Ayr
William 27 - possible death 1869 619/ 34 Tarbolton SMILLIE WILLIAM 37 mmn HUMPHREY
Christina 23
Grace 5 - 1856 612/ 22 St Quivox and Newton On Ayr - married 1875 578/ 22 Ayr DOOLAN John - died DOOLAN/SMILLIE GRACE 71 1927 619/ 22 Tarbolton
Mary 3 - 1858 612/ 63 St Quivox and Newton On Ayr - as SMILAY MARY ANN DOUGLAS
John 0 - 1860 612/ 69 St Quivox and Newton On Ayr

I think this is John, as SMEILIE

1871: 619/ 7/ 33 Tarbolton Ayr

Christina 54 (should be 34)
Mary 12
John 10
William 8
Sarah 6

Christina is remarried: 1874 619/ 16 Tarbolton YOUNG Andrew to DICKSON Christina
1881: 619/ 7/ 3 Tarbolton
YOUNG Andrew 36
YOUNG Christina 44
SMILLIE John 20
SMILLIE William 18
SMILLIE Sarah 14
YOUNG Thomas 15
YOUNG Jane 7
YOUNG Jane 5
YOUNG Robert 4

1891: 619/ 7/ 33 Tarbolton
Andrew 46
Christina 54
Jane 16
Robert 14

1901: 619/ 6/ 12 Tarbolton
Andrew 57
Christina 63

Death: YOUNG/DICKSON Christina 64 1906 619/ 48 Tarbolton

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Re: Smillies
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 March 20 04:10 GMT (UK) »
There is only 1 Annie Douglas in 1881: 619/ 7/ 7 Tarbolton Ayr

Grace R 50
Annie 18
Grace 14
William 10

1891: 619/ 7/ 30 Tarbolton
Grace 60
Joseph 58 - husband, or brother?
William 20

I can’t see them pre 1881, nor can I see marriage for Grace and Joseph.

I was thinking that Annie’s father should be Robert, given the naming pattern.

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