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Re: Gaelic or Scots for Coplands
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 19 March 20 10:41 GMT (UK) »
 Scots has been spoken in the islands for 500 years, from the top down-wards. What Shetlanders call Shetland dialect is actually very good Scots with Norse words, Norn is now sadly extinct.  There are apparently more Norse words used in the Gaelic of the Outer Hebrides than in Shetland. Kids at school were stopped from using Shetland dialect, kids whose language was Gaelic or Scots got similar, often brutal, treatment. I used to get the belt for using Glesga. It was imperialism and we ended up bi-lingual anyhow, we knew when to switch to English, it was a painful lesson.
 Had a Shetland grannie who also spoke Glesga when it suited her.  ;D

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Re: Gaelic or Scots for Coplands
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 19 March 20 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Skoosh, So just to confirm....would my relatives from around Glasgow from 1760 onwards have spoken Scots with a dialect along with English?   But no Gaelic.

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Re: Gaelic or Scots for Coplands
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 19 March 20 23:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Gadget, ,what an interesting letter you have. I guess my relatives from around the same area must have spoken the same i.e Scots with English.  Thanks for your input

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Re: Gaelic or Scots for Coplands
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 19 March 20 23:29 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Forfarian, Interesting links you posted. Appreciate your help.


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Re: Gaelic or Scots for Coplands
« Reply #13 on: Friday 20 March 20 07:30 GMT (UK) »
@ iwccc, your folk would have spoken the same Broad Scots as Robert Burns only he had an Ayrshire accent. Gaelic was spoken not far away to the north at that time & about half of the Glasgow place-names are of Gaelic origin, so post 1050 until Scots replaced Gaelic hereaboots a couple of hundred years later!
 Glasgow's growth to over a million people in the 19th century was largely made up of folk from the Highland's & Ireland, post "The Famine" & Gaelic would have been widely spoken but rarely passed on to the weans. Glasgow's present unique accent is influenced by both!  ;D

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Re: Gaelic or Scots for Coplands
« Reply #14 on: Friday 20 March 20 08:21 GMT (UK) »
So just to confirm....would my relatives from around Glasgow from 1760 onwards have spoken Scots with a dialect along with English?   But no Gaelic.
Unless they were born and brought up in a Gaelic-speaking area and moved into the city, they would have spoken Scots.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Gaelic or Scots for Coplands
« Reply #15 on: Friday 20 March 20 09:25 GMT (UK) »
The ordinary folk never bothered much with English, apart from school, many still don't!  ;D
The Bible was the thing which made English general.

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Re: Gaelic or Scots for Coplands
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 22 March 20 00:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Forfarian, That's confirmed my understanding. Much appreciated

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Re: Gaelic or Scots for Coplands
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 22 March 20 01:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Skoosh,  I appreciate your thoughts.  It looks like my folk spoke Scots                                           I do know that Bibles are now printed in Scots.  thanks again