First part of a pub's name ??? Arms, 1851 UK Census

[dragonlady403]

Yes, I was just writing to say that.  Not sure why she'd do that unless there was a financial benefit which is dubious.

[dragonlady403]

In 1855 his daughter Emma lists her father as school teacher on her marriage cert.  Not deceased...

[Girl Guide]

Found another one that could be more likely after the 1851 census

MORRIS, ROBERT       68 
GRO Reference: 1854  M Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 302

Gives a birth year again of 1786

[Girl Guide]

Depends on whether the vicar asked if he was still alive or just asked for his name.

[dragonlady403]

Ah yes, good point. Yes, this 2nd one seems more likely because on the next census she lists herself as widow.  So a definite possibility. 

[dragonlady403]

BTW I LOVE your profile pic!!!

[Girl Guide]

Thanks, I was quite pleased at how it turned out.  Combined my love of family history with Lego.

[dragonlady403]

Well done you! I have a couple of grandsons who would be most impressed:)

[dragonlady403]

OK, I will ferret around in the newspapers to see if there is any info about him being jailed and I have nailed his death down to a about a decade which is also helpful.

Thanks so much for taking the time to assist with this!  I had felt like all I was getting was brick walls.

Really appreciate your time and knowledge:)