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First part of a pub's name ??? Arms, 1851 UK Census
« on: Sunday 22 March 20 16:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I wonder if someone could figure out the first portion of this pub's name listed with Apollonia Morris on the attached portion of the 1851 census Kirkdale, Liverpool :

??? Arms, 15 Derby Street, Kirkdale, Liverpool
Apollonia Morris Barhouse Keeper.

Also, if anyone could figure out the marital status that would be wonderful!!  Her husband seems to have disappeared off all records from abut 1840.

Also, would that still be the street name now?

Thanks for any assistance you can offer.  I've checked defunct pubs lists, maps and historical listings with no success:(

Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: First part of a pub's name ??? Arms, 1851 UK Census
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 March 20 16:18 GMT (UK) »
I think the first two letters could be Wa--head Arms.

Have you looked to see if there are any similar letters on the rest of the page?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: First part of a pub's name ??? Arms, 1851 UK Census
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 March 20 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Girl Guide - yes, my husband also took a stab at it.  He thought the first letter might be a B, but frankly, I think we are just stabbing in the dark:(
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: First part of a pub's name ??? Arms, 1851 UK Census
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 March 20 16:32 GMT (UK) »
This looks like it could be her death

MORRIS, APOLLOMA       66 
GRO Reference: 1863  M Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 39

This lady obviously suffered from her first name being misheard.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: First part of a pub's name ??? Arms, 1851 UK Census
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 March 20 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Could it be the Lathom Arms?

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Re: First part of a pub's name ??? Arms, 1851 UK Census
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 March 20 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Lathom Arms was my first thought. NB it's 15 Derby Road, not Street. Derby Road is one of the main roads into Liverpool from the northern suburbs.
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Re: First part of a pub's name ??? Arms, 1851 UK Census
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 March 20 16:52 GMT (UK) »
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Barhouse Keeper.

Beerhouse keeper
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Re: First part of a pub's name ??? Arms, 1851 UK Census
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 March 20 16:54 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism for Caroline Morris, who is on the 1851 census, on 31 August 1831 at Middlewich, Cheshire.

Parents and Robert and Apolonia Morris

So at least we have her husband's name.

I'll see if the sister was baptised as well.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: First part of a pub's name ??? Arms, 1851 UK Census
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 March 20 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Emma is down as Emma Sophia baptised 18 April 1833.  Parents Robert and Appollonia Morris.  Dad is stated as being a school master.

This is a transcription record, no image available on Find My Past.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire