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Re: Birth/Baptism of Louie Florence SANDERSON abt 1887
« Reply #45 on: Monday 30 March 20 12:47 BST (UK) »
The marriage of Henry Cornish Miller to Eliza Phyllis Hope, M Q 1863 STRAND 1B 560

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Re: Birth/Baptism of Louie Florence SANDERSON abt 1887
« Reply #46 on: Monday 30 March 20 12:48 BST (UK) »
Thank you.   ;D

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Re: Birth/Baptism of Louie Florence SANDERSON abt 1887
« Reply #47 on: Monday 30 March 20 12:57 BST (UK) »
The marriage of Henry Cornish Miller to Eliza Phyllis Hope, M Q 1863 STRAND 1B 560

21st March 1863 St Paul, Covent Garden
Henry Cornish Miller age 21 gas inspector, Tavistock St.,  father   Henry, Clerk
Spouse   Eliza Philis Hope age 21 father William, Engineer
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Re: Birth/Baptism of Louie Florence SANDERSON abt 1887
« Reply #48 on: Monday 30 March 20 12:59 BST (UK) »
Located the record to which you referred.  The surname is difficult to decipher but the year of birth is correct.  Henry, a designer aged 43 is a patient with suspected influenza admitted in 1910 at the Bethlem Hospital. 

He is a poorly nourished suicidal married man with two children one of whom died and the surviving child is aged 12.  His wife's name is Gertrude May HOBSON [this is his surname I suspect]. Henry's father is deceased. 

I don't know if he 'fits' and shall retain the record on the off chance. ???

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Re: Birth/Baptism of Louie Florence SANDERSON abt 1887
« Reply #49 on: Monday 30 March 20 13:00 BST (UK) »
Thank you ladyhawk!.

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Re: Birth/Baptism of Louie Florence SANDERSON abt 1887
« Reply #50 on: Monday 30 March 20 14:30 BST (UK) »
He is Henry Hope Hobson. Married Gertrude Mary Scott 1893 and appears on 1901 census--so not your man sadly.

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Re: Birth/Baptism of Louie Florence SANDERSON abt 1887
« Reply #51 on: Monday 30 March 20 16:54 BST (UK) »
1871c Piece:   623 Folio:   112 Page 11
35 York St.
Eliza P MILLER Mar. 26 Coldstream
Ada C    6
Caroline G   5
Henry H    3 Camberwell
Eliza P    1
William HOPE   58

Is this Eliza Phillis MILLER on 1881 census?

1881c Piece:   3625 Folio: 87 Page 36
31 Londsdale St., Liverpool
William CUMMINS   52 Baker
Eliza ditto           36 Scotland
Caroline MILLER step dau   15
Eliza              ditto      ditto.       11
William Cummins son   7
Thomas ditto son 4
Henry Kitching   57

Thomas Ernest CUMMINS mmn HOPE 
1877  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 174

1911c Thomas Ernest surname is MELLOR with mother Eliza and stepfather John
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW19-7Q3

Can’t see a marriage for Eliza Phillis to William CUMMINS

William CUMMINS 43 Lambeth Surrey occ Master Baker is on the
1871 c Piece:   622 Folio:   15 Page 32 wife Hannah 40, children
Kate 20, Mary J 11, William C 10, Charles H 7 & Frederick A 5

Not sure if you have this remarriage Eliza

1 Jun 1884  St Clement, Toxteth Lancashire
Eliza Phillis MILLER widow age 39 Father William HOPE, Engineer
Spouse:   John MELLOR widower age 42, cabinet maker father John, White Smith
one witness Caroline MILLER

7 Dec 1885 St Clement, Toxteth Lancashire
Caroline Georgina MILLER 21 Father Henry Miller, Engineeer
Spouse:   Edwin George THORPE widower 26, Traveller
one witness Eliza Phillis MILLER

1891c Piece:   3212 Folio:   89 page 39
4 Alexander St
John MELLOR 49 Cabinet maker
Eliza P    46 Scotland
Eliza P       21 London
William    16
Thomas E    13
Louie F Sanderson   4 granddaughter
Edward Williams    22

EDITED to add my apologies  as I had not read through the whole of your post and it looks as if I've duplicated the information already given  ::)
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Re: Birth/Baptism of Louie Florence SANDERSON abt 1887
« Reply #52 on: Monday 30 March 20 19:36 BST (UK) »
Not that it is important but William Cummins had certainly got around prior to living with Eliza Phillis. He appears on 1851/61/71 census with Hannah "his wife". They have at least 6 children some born with surname Freeman others Cummins with mmn Freeman. In 1881 he is with Eliza and by 1891 living with Harriet. Reminds me of one of my ancestors, 15 children with 3 ladies, only ever married one.

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Re: Birth/Baptism of Louie Florence SANDERSON abt 1887
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 31 March 20 03:23 BST (UK) »
Hello John,

I had a bit of a chuckle with your last post especially in relation to William CUMMINS.  I am glad we cannot be held to account for the behavior of our ancestors especially those who behaved badly although we do continue to pay the price for their behaviour.

One of my great grandfather's seems to have very little to commend his good character.  To my current knowledge he was responsible for 5 children outside of his marriage three of whom were to sister's of his wife.  I think there are more.

That was the least of his behaviour.  Anyway its all history now and one can only learn from his behaviour and be better.  Gosh that reminds me of Melania TRUMP's Be Best 'initiative' although it doesn't seem to be having any impact on her husband ;D

One of the benefits of genealogy.

Many thanks for your continued support.

Westy