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Re: Inquisition in Ulster - Latin Translation?
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 05 April 20 23:34 BST (UK) »
Ninian:  Denization was 18 Jan  1611,,,, 
.son of James S of Bute.

Siblings:  David
              Jane (married Alex Magee)
              Christiann (married Brice Dunlop)

Children:
1 Arch (married Martha Dobbin) children a dau married George Vesey, Hollymount, a dau married             Richard DOBBS, Rev Archibald S md dau of John Vesey, Jane S,  and Alex S that married Jamaica Ann S
           
2  Ninian (married Jane McCullogh)  12 children
           
3  Catherine (married John Steward of Red Bay)

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Alex S that married Jamaica Ann S (probably on the Stewart of Jamaica pedigree that Dobbs looked at!) had

Alec, md Cathann Hill  children Jane, Sophia
Ann, md Conway Richard Dobbs, children Alex, Richard, Randall  (in Ireland or Jamaica?)
Rose md Edward Brice,  son Ed

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Re: Inquisition in Ulster - Latin Translation?
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 05 April 20 23:35 BST (UK) »

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Re: Inquisition in Ulster - Latin Translation?
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 05 April 20 23:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Hallmark,

Who is the Capt. Stewart who fled to Alltyrodin, Llandyssil?

Gilby

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Names of ye traitors in ye Castle of Dublin at ye first rebellion, Oct. 26, 1641.
Collection:    Stewart Mss.
Format:    Manuscript
Published:    1885

NLI ref...   MS_UR_049592


Papers of Capt. Stewart of Alltyrodin, Llandyssil, including papers of the Moore family, containing a number of items of Irish interest, 1641-1739. (Hist. Mss. Comm. Rep. 10, App. 4, 1885). Some of the papers are now in Liverpool Public Library, some in Liverpool University and some were sold.


Capt Poyntz Stewart  married Magdalene Gayer...her mother was Agnes Echlin who married Rev Echlin son of Sir Henry Echlin whose wives were Moores.  1st wife Jane Moore sister of Earl of Drogheda, 2nd wife Mary dau of Brabazon Moore, she was g/daughter of Charles 2nd Viscount Drogheda..

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Re: Inquisition in Ulster - Latin Translation?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 06 April 20 01:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Hallmark,
 
Who is the Capt. Stewart who fled to Alltyrodin, Llandyssil?

Gilby



This is the little damp Welsh cottage he had to try to survive in..owned by John Lloyd, who died unmarried and devised the estates to a female cousin, Anne Stewart,

https://houseandheritage.org/2018/07/01/alltyrodyn/



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Re: Inquisition in Ulster - Latin Translation?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 06 April 20 01:35 BST (UK) »



The mansion was later bought by Captain James Stewart (1830-1908), JP, DL, the second son of Mr Alexander Stewart, of Woodford Hall, Essex.
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Re: Inquisition in Ulster - Latin Translation?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 06 April 20 04:00 BST (UK) »


I'll leave it at that...it is gone too ridiculous!!

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=813627.msg6925484#msg6925484

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Re: Inquisition in Ulster - Latin Translation?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 06 April 20 21:19 BST (UK) »
No!!!   Dobb's Report is compiled from Pedigrees he found!!

It looks like the Dobbs Report is based on the version of the Stewart pedigree which Betham had compiled and which were listed elsewhere and by McAnlis!! 

Dobbs has over 3500 names in his report, where do people think he got them from??

Is the snippet of a family tree you sent from Betham?  Could you post a link or point me in the right direction as I'm struggling to find it?

Also, who is McAnlis?   ???

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Re: Inquisition in Ulster - Latin Translation?
« Reply #25 on: Monday 06 April 20 21:22 BST (UK) »
Stewart Pedigrees looked at by Dobbs
Aghnaclog, Ardpatrick, Aughinloo, Bailieboro, Ballinlough, Balymena, Ballinrowan, Ballintroy, Ballelan, Belfast, Callan, Castle Burke, Clonee, Coleraine, Coolskea, Corcreagh, Dublin, Derry, Dromgarth, Hornhead, Londonderry.........and 30 other places

Where did you get this list from?  Do you know if any of Dobbs's original notes/extracts survive?

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 06 April 20 21:35 BST (UK) »
Stewart Pedigrees looked at by Dobbs
Aghnaclog, Ardpatrick, Aughinloo, Bailieboro, Ballinlough, Balymena, Ballinrowan, Ballintroy, Ballelan, Belfast, Callan, Castle Burke, Clonee, Coleraine, Coolskea, Corcreagh, Dublin, Derry, Dromgarth, Hornhead, Londonderry.........and 30 other places

Where did you get this list from?  Do you know if any of Dobbs's original notes/extracts survive?


Wasn't the Court Case in London?  Normally all Documents are lodged in Court, even the Pedigres of those who put in a claim and were rejected.....

From memory, 17,347 names claimed and only about 3000 could prove direct lineage!

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