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Re: Evan Jones (b 1831-1834) and Elizabeth Parry
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 June 23 16:46 BST (UK) »
the marriage given by EmyrBorth in reply no. 2 shows Elizabeth's father as Thomas Parry and Evan's as Thomas Jones

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01scv/ - map of Tydweiliog

to help others searching
1911 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7VF-36P

1901 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9BW-CLN

1871 at sea
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBJQ-Q95

1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M726-XT6

baptism for Elizabeth - daughter of Thomas Parry & his wife Anne
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMM8-HVF

1871 census - Laura Roberts is aunt to Elizabeth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V51N-BNR
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Evan Jones (b 1831-1834) and Elizabeth Parry
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 June 23 18:00 BST (UK) »
1841 census for Elizabeth referred to by WelshGen in reply no. 1. Address is Penybont
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7QT-5DB

1891 for Evan at Gremp
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4PPD-LMM

son Henry is next door with aunt Ann Parry, Elizabeth's sister
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4PPD-Z6Z

Elizabeth's mother Ann Owen was of Penllech at marriage in 1825, husband Thomas Parry of Rhiw.
Laura Roberts, aunt to Elizabeth, has place of birth of Penllech so probably her mother's sister. Possible marriage 21 Feb 1834 in Denio of William Roberts of Denio & Lowry Owen of Penllech, witnesses Hugh Roberts & Evan Evans Pwllheli.
1851 census for Laura, husband William a mariner.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGVL-X4L

1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7QT-LXF
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Evan Jones (b 1831-1834) and Elizabeth Parry
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 June 23 18:41 BST (UK) »
possible baptisms in Penllech in patronymic form

10 April 1807 Lowry daughter of Owen Griffith & Elinor
14 May 1797 Ann daughter of Owen Griffith & Elinor his wife. Owen noted as yeoman of Congl y Cae
Also 23 Sept 1810 Hugh

map of Congl y Cae
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01scw/

Looks like it's now a holiday cottage
https://www.menaiholidays.co.uk/cottage/North-Wales-Snowdonia-Pwllheli/Congl-Cae-1090727.html

Don't know if you have these baptisms to Evan & Elizabeth in Llangwnadl
4 May 1859 Thomas son of Evan Thomas sailor & Elizabeth of Penybont
23 May 1859 Ann daughter of Evan Thomas sailor & Elizabeth of Penybont
20 April 1861 Henry son of Evan Thomas mariner & Elizabeth Schoolhouse.

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Evan Jones (b 1831-1834) and Elizabeth Parry
« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 June 23 09:49 BST (UK) »
This map has the location of Ty Forgan/Morgan: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17.1&lat=52.90717&lon=-4.62014&layers=168&right=ESRIWorld

I can't see it on any map but some nearby houses on the census are Ty'n-y-weirglodd, Ty Newydd and Ty'nylon.

Tyn y Ffynon is not shown on the map, but it is still there, opposite Ty'n-rhos.

I think Ty Morgan may be the house opposite the entrance to Ty Newydd and is now Rhos y Grug.

There is a reference to Ty Morgan about a tenancy agreement in 1868: https://diogel.gwynedd.llyw.cymru/DATRhagorol/RhestrEitem.aspx?iaith=cy&rhif_archif=12&rhif_rhiant=103001&rhif_tudalen=3

He was there in 1881, born 1808 in Tydweiliog, shown as Jane Williams son in 1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-F2GL

In 1861 he was at Penycha Rhos, Tydweiliog: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M72F-W2B

David


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Re: Evan Jones (b 1831-1834) and Elizabeth Parry
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 June 23 14:46 BST (UK) »
The bapt 1835 I quotes was for Elizabeth Jones, sister of Evan Jones.

Its late here and will have to look over all of this again as I may be mistaken.

osprey looks to have a lot of info there for you :)

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Re: Evan Jones (b 1831-1834) and Elizabeth Parry
« Reply #14 on: Monday 05 June 23 21:07 BST (UK) »
will of Owen Griffith, Congl y Cae, mentions sons John Owen & Griffith Owen, daughters Anne & Lowry, wife Elinor, sons Thomas & Hugh, & daughter Jane. Will written 7 Feb 1830 & proved 9 March 1830
https://viewer.library.wales/814887#?xywh=2%2C682%2C2625%2C2204&cv=
executors names as Ellin Griffith, Thomas Griffith, Hugh Griffith & Jane Griffith

Burial Penllech
11 Feb 1830 Owen Jones 69 Congl y Cae (his father Griffith Jones?)

Then will of Ellin Griffith written 9 March 1830 names sons John & Griffith, daughter Anne & daughter Lowry is executor.
https://viewer.library.wales/572640#?xywh=653%2C753%2C1519%2C1275&cv=

Burial Penllech 19 March 1830 Elleanor Lloyd 59 Congl y Cae  (next entry after Owen's)

1841 census has Thomas Owen at Congl y Cae - or near attempt at name on census return
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7QT-PG5

parish marriage Penllech 26 Sept 1833 Thomas Owen Congl y Cae & Margaret Parry, both otp.

By 1851 Margaret is a widow, still at Congl y Cae
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV2-4JN

Burial Penllech 5 Dec 1847 Thomas Owen 55 Congl y Cae

Baptism of Owen & Elinor's eldest(?) son Griffith 9 May 1790 Penllech
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Evan Jones (b 1831-1834) and Elizabeth Parry
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 08 June 23 23:00 BST (UK) »
Thank you all so much for the information provided. I was able to ascertain some missing links and now know new places to look for data.

Owen