john mcCann

[tom-dick]

Hello,I am looking any information on John McCann,he was born in Dublin in 1887.In 1900 he was working as a farm hand in Baltinglass as a farm hand.he accidentally shot and killed a farm boy and was arrested for it.In 1901 census he was in Naas Prison awaiting trial.As far as I know he was released without charge.I cant find him on 1911 irish census.I am trying to find out what happened to this man,any help much appreciated and thank you for your time,tom

[Sinann]

The shooting of Tom Tutty by Jack McCann is reported in the newspapers on 7 April 1900.
Thomas Tutty death cert gives death as 13th March
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05761/4627851.pdf

Can you post a link to the census.

I'll try to find more in the papers later but so far it's proving difficult.

[Sinann]

Found a report of his appearance in court in Baltinglass , think this was 13th April.
John/Jack in his sworn statement claimed he was not in the house when Tom was shot, he also said he is a native of Bishop's Hill Co.Kildare.
The shooting happened in James Collins house in Coolmandra and Collins' 5 year old son John was present.
John Collins claimed Jack shot Tom, but he was only 'tricking'.
Jack/John later admitted his had shot Tom, he didn't know the gun was loaded.
He was put forward for trial at the next Wicklow Assizes.

[Ladyhawk]

Can you post a link to the census.

Is this him in 1901?

John McCann age 14   Dublin,  Single
House Number:   1000.2 Naas East, Naas Urban, Kildare, Ireland
Occupation:   Gen. Laborer
Religion:   Roman Catholic
Literacy:   Read and write

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Naas_Urban/Naas_East/1441950/

[Sinann]

Wicklow Assizes July 1900
Manslaughter of Thomas Tutty
The prisoner pleaded not guilty (he's not named)
The jury found the prisoner not guilty and he was discharged.

So he can't have been in prison in 1901.

Edited to add, in this report it gives his age as 19.

[hallmark]

The shooting of Tom Tutty by Jack McCann is reported in the newspapers on 7 April 1900.
Thomas Tutty death cert gives death as 13th March
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05761/4627851.pdf

Can you post a link to the census.

I'll try to find more in the papers later but so far it's proving difficult.

It will be if details posted as facts aren't facts! 

Wicklow Assizes July 1900
Manslaughter of Thomas Tutty
The prisoner pleaded not guilty

..so he can't be in Naas Prison in 1911 unless the key to cell was lost in July 1910     

[Sinann]

I'm not sure there was a jail/prison in Naas in 1901, the old Naas Goal was out of use by 1893.

What needs looking at is Jack McCann statement that he is a native of Bishop's Hill Kildare, I wouldn't mind his age constantly changing in the papers, that's not unusual.
Question is was he born in Dublin and raised in Kildare or is there a mix up between the Dublin chap and a Kildare chap.

[hallmark]

So...you're  looking any information on John McCann, born in Dublin in 1887


Why not look for Parents on Census?

If you wade through all these you might find parents...


All Civil Reg Birth results for John McCann of Dublin from 1887 to 1887

LINK    http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pag/



....then let people know who parents are to even start looking at Census

[Sinann]

This looks to be the family John McCann was living with and the house the where the shooting occurred
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Donaghmore/Coolamaddra/1808460/

Tutty family
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Donaghmore/Coolamaddra/1808452/