Married after "Registrars Banns"

[Corryn]

Hi All,
Can anyone explain why a couple should marry after registrars banns? They were both from the area, so why not just get the banns read out in church?

Also the vicar made a point of entering in the register that the bride was "born out of wedlock" under Fathers Name and Surname.  All others I have seen have just had a line drawn where no fathers name is written.
This marriage took place in the district church Lawley, Shropshire, May 15 1880

Corryn

[louisa maud]

Having looked at various registers in the past I do not like some of the comments written, in my opinion there was no need to write "born out of wedlock" perhaps the bride offered that information herself.

doesn't  help you but I wanted to make a point

Louisa Maud

[Corryn]

Louisa Maud

My thoughts exactly.

Corryn

[stanmapstone]

There is no such thing as "Registrars Banns". Banns are only a Church of England ceremony, he probably means a Superintendent Registrar’s Certificate.

After 1st July 1837, Marriages in England and Wales could be by:

1)   Banns
2)   Surrogate’s or Common Licence
3)   Special Licence
4)   Superintendent Registrar’s Certificate
5)   Superintendent Registrar’s Licence

Under (1) (2) and (3) marriages may be solemnized by a Clergyman of the Established Church of England in a licensed Church or Chapel of the Church of England, or, if by Special Licence, in any place and at any time.
Under (4) they may, as in cases (1) and (2), be solemnized by a Clergyman of the Established Church of England subject to his being willing to accept the Certificate in lieu of Banns; and under (4) and (5) by or before a Registrar of Marriages in a building of Roman Catholic or other denomination duly registered by the Registrar-General; before a Registrar of Marriages and a Superintendent Registrar in the District Register Office; or after the 1898 Act .(Marriage; Nonconformist Places of Worship),  before a person duly authorised under the Act. Under this Act Roman Catholics and Nonconformists were not required to have a civil Registrar present.

Stan

[louisa maud]

Were they of the Catholic religion?

Often the word b*****d is used  for a child born out of wedlock and I also think it is most unkind

A relative of my sister in law , he a widow married his sister in law about 1900, they lived in a village and went to London to get married, when their first child was born it was shown on the baptism record that it was an unlawful marriage, why they went to London I really do not know as it was a small village and would  have been found out at sometime, once again the vicar had no need to do that

Louisa Maud

[Corryn]

Louisa Maud
They were CoE.
Most of the family married in the Parish Church (All Saints Wellington).
I wonder if they tried to keep their marriage quiet.

Stan
Four years later, in the same register, it does say "Superintendent Registrar's Certificate" for a couple of marriages. This is the only one I can see that says "Registrars Banns" so as you say probably an error by the vicar.

Corryn

[Crumblie]

I have seen one Scottish baptism register entry in which the Minister said the child was born out of fornication, he did not seem happy with the situation. It did not seem to bother the child in his later life apart from the fact he appears on records sometimes with his mother's maiden name and sometimes with his  step-father's surname, and sometimes with both.

[Fisherman]

Corryn,

This might just be the answer!
When Alfred married Emma Peake in 1880 perhaps he was marrying someone from his mothers family. His mother was Eliza Peake. She married Alfred's father sometime before 1856. Perhaps the family were not happy about the marriage.

Fisherman

ADDED
Alfred's father John married Eliza Sept. Q 1856.
So Alfred was, as my mother would have said, under the bouquet!!
 

[Corryn]

Fisherman,
Thanks for the information.
I will try and find a link between Eliza and Emma.

Corryn