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Confused about great grandfather
« on: Tuesday 07 April 20 17:06 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I’m trying to find the death of my great grandfather and I’m getting quite confused (I’m by no means an experienced genealogist!) Through certificates I can pinpoint his death to an 11 month period, but quite a few things don’t add up. So far I know:
* He was born in 1883 in Oldbury.
*He married Annie Wilkins (who was a widow, she was born Baker) in 1924 in Southwark.
*My grandmother was born Aug 1928 in Southwark and George is listed on the birth certificate.
* Annie married a George Shanley in July 1929 and she is listed as a widow.

So from the evidence I would say that George died between August 1928 and July 1929. I have looked at death records and have found two that could possibly be him but I’m not so sure. The first one died in Islington in Dec 1928 aged 50. The second died in Southwark Mar 1929 aged 54.
With both of them the ages are out by quite a few years. The second one is out by ten years but they did live in Southwark, but then again even if the age is wrong would his wife remarry 4 months after her husband died? I don’t know if I’m missing anything obvious or not? Any help would be Greatly  appreciated!
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Re: Confused about great grandfather
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 17:14 BST (UK) »
I assume we are looking for George French  :)
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Re: Confused about great grandfather
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 17:16 BST (UK) »
Hi sorry, yes that would help!! Yes George French
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Re: Confused about great grandfather
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 17:40 BST (UK) »
What was his occupation.

Still looking for a burial for those deaths in case it helps

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Re: Confused about great grandfather
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 17:46 BST (UK) »
It states “Hotel Chef.” Thank you very much!
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Re: Confused about great grandfather
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 19:04 BST (UK) »


Hi     

Are you sure that George French isn't George Shanley?         

When where was Annie born?




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Re: Confused about great grandfather
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 19:11 BST (UK) »
The problem with ages on death is that the person who reports the death can only give information that they believe to be true which may not infact may not be the case.

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Re: Confused about great grandfather
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 20:06 BST (UK) »


Hi     

Are you sure that George French isn't George Shanley?         

When where was Annie born?


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Hi! Annie was born January 1895 in the district of St Peter Walworth (assuming I have the correct certificate)
She married 3 times (that I know of)
Her first husband was
George Wilkins married June 1915 in Camberwell.
Next husband was George French married November 1924 (she is listed as a widower here) married in Southwark.
She then married William George Shanley July 1929 in Newington.
I know the last one is definite as my grandmother was put into an orphanage when she was very young. I have the admission papers and it states “unsympathetic stepfather” and it names him as William Shanley of Rotherhithe.
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Re: Confused about great grandfather
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 20:07 BST (UK) »
The problem with ages on death is that the person who reports the death can only give information that they believe to be true which may not infact may not be the case.

Yes that’s very true thank you! She got her daughters date of birth wrong and also didn’t know when or where she was baptised but was adamant she was so I’m thinking she wasn’t the most reliable of sources!!
Seabrook and Doggett Abbots langley, Herts
Robinson, Oxford
Fryer and Bates, Penn, Bucks
French, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Turner and Cunningham Galashiels, Scotland
Barrs, Leicstershire/London