Montford Family Loughconnelly area

[kel28]

Hello, I am looking for information on the John Montford family line of the Loughconnelly area in County Antrim.   John was married to Grace Ritchie, he died in 1858 and I am looking for ancestors of for John and Grace.       

[aghadowey]

Link to your Crawford posts-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=501863

Civil registration of deaths didn't start until 1864 so where did date of 1858 come from?

There's a John Montford of Loughconley with daughter Grace- perhaps son of John & Grace?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Longmore/Loughconnolly/928752/

Grace, daughter of John Montford & Elizabeth Crawford-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03105/2138516.pdf

Birth of Grace Ritchie Montford gives parents as Charles Montford & Nancy Crawford (see also Crawford thread)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03457/2269133.pdf

Widow Grace Montford died 1889 & informant was son John-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1889/06127/4749769.pdf

[kel28]

Hello,
I was able to find John Montford's death date from the Will Calendar's on PRONI, unfortunately I do not have his birth date.  I believe he is buried in Broughshane First Presbyterian, however, I have been unable to locate a headstone or any other information.     I have been able to find a lot of information on most of their 10 children, however, I was hoping to find more information on their parents.   The information you provided is the correct Montford line, and I thank you. 

[scotmum]

John Montford burials at Broughshane are listed here http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pbg/

[kel28]

Thank you for the link to the cemetery, the one headstone with the unknown dates is the one I really need, but unfortunately the headstone is not readable.   I am in the US, so one day, maybe I can try and see if first hand to try and read it

[dathai]

George Montford pension search 1917
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246684/007246684_00343.pdf

http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246684/007246684_00344.pdf

[kel28]

Thank you

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Prelim I didn’t exhaust familysearch org or Aghadoweys important response as i ran out of time

going back in time
1901Census has 52 Montfords the ones living in Co Antrim are all presbyterians
1901 Census has 4 Munfords the co antrim is CofE
note First Broughshane Presbyterian Church is in Racavan civil parish


1862 Griffiths Valuation see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&familyname=&firstname=&offset=0&countyname=&parishname=&unionname=&baronyname=&totalrows=70&PlaceID=23546&wildcard=
Skerry Civil Parish 
map ref 8 16 people share 162 acres of Mountain the first named is reps of John Montford
map ref 9, reps of John Montford house office and land 21 acres house valued £1 pa
10a,  reps of John Montford office and land 7 acres and offce five shillings pa
10b Davis McCullagh landlord reps of John Montford house only ten shillings pa
the mountain is Knockramer 1106 ft above sealevel at the north end of a vertical very narrow townland  the lower inhabited end has a road funning west to east the LoughLoughan Road further south is the more sw-ne Carnlough road
Sadly this particular map acquired by askabout ireland map is an incomplete copy only the lower one third is marked with Prices written on map ref nos most of whom are illegible. one might find another version showing just the map ref boundaries in say Ballymena hdgs library or valuations office Belfast
1862 Griffiths Valuation also has
in Racavan civil parish
James Montford   Antrim   Racavan               
James Montford   Antrim   Racavan   
John Montford   Antrim   Racavan       
John Montford   Antrim   Racavan       
Joseph Montford   Antrim   Racavan   
sub lease Thompson   Archb.Wm.   Antrim   Racavan       

existing family links  from your resposes
John Montford bbb 1813 d could be plot;A/#/569  m 1829 Grace Ritchie bbb 1813 d
Residence In 1851 Civil Parish Skerry Civil Parish Loughconnelly Townland   
 SEE EXTRACT
Loughconnelly see
 http://www.placenamesni.org/resultdetails.php?entry=18766
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/antrim-lower/skerry/loughconnelly/
children
George [b 1846 possible in GenesReunited ] no return found in 1851 census]
children LISTED IN PENCIL 1917 in census1851 query
James Montford b~ 1833 could m 1857 see https://www.ancestryireland.com Elizabeth Montford b~ 1836
John Montford b~ 1838 could m 1854 see https://www.ancestryireland.com
Charles Montford b~ 1840 could m 1867 see https://www.ancestryireland.com
Grace Montford b~ 1843
Mary Montford b~ 1846 could m 1868 see https://www.ancestryireland.com
Margaret Montford b~ 1848
George see note above
end of part 1

[BallyaltikilliganG]

continued
question could they be entered in tithes in other variant spellings?  Yes very likely see http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/skerry-parish.php
as
Munfoad, Hugh Townland: Ballymena Year: 1825
Munfoad, John Townland: Bally Ligg Year: 1825
Munfoad, John Townland: Loughconoly Year: 1825
Munfoad, John Townland: Loughloughan Year: 1825

Munford, John Townland: Loughconoly Year: 1825
Munford, S. Townland: Lisnamunican Year: 1825

Richey, Charles Townland: Ballymena Year: 1825
Richey, Frs. Townland: Broughshane Year: 1825
Richey, James Townland: Bally Ligg Year: 1825
Richey, Robert Townland: Bally Ligg Year: 1825
Ritchey, Charles Townland: Loughloughan Year: 1825
Ritchey, John Townland: Eglish Year: 1825

that extends using my own index of tithes to include
Munfoad, Hugh-Townland: Ballymena Year: 1825-Skerry-Antrim
Munfoad, John-Townland: Bally Ligg Year: 1825-Skerry-Antrim
Munfoad, John-Townland: Loughconoly Year: 1825-Skerry-Antrim
Munfoad, John-Townland: Loughloughan Year: 1825-Skerry-Antrim

Munfoad, Thos.-Townland: Monkstown Year: 1835- Carnmoney-Antrim
Munfoad, Townland: Monkstown Year: 1835-- Carnmoney-Antrim

Munford, John-Townland: Loughconoly Year: 1825-Skerry-Antrim
Munford, S.-Townland: Lisnamunican Year: 1825-Skerry-Antrim
this Munford spelling is in 1901 census

see skerry and racavan townland maps
Lisnamurrican  the southern adjoining townland to Loughconnelly but in Racavan townland not apparently listed in Rathcavan at this time

Ritcjie are buried in Broughshane First Presbyterian Church

1796 Flaxgrowers of ireland no entries fund
from https://www.ancestryireland.com  deaths
MONTFORD   WIDOW   1764   SHANKILL   BELFAST CO ANTRIM   
MONTFORD   ALEXANDER   1765   SHANKILL   BELFAST CO ANTRIM   
1740 1660shearthmoneyrollsulster –alpha no entries fund

1669 hearth money rolls
1838 Antrim Dunluce Lower Derrykeighan Ballyratahan   2 [Qr] Ballavafagan Robert Monfed Montford
168 Antrim Toome Upper   Antrim Carngranny Comgreny Geo Munfude Montford
674 Antrim Antrim Lower Skerry Coreen Carnee Thomas Moonfore Montford
675 Antrim Antrim Lower Skerry Coreen Carnee John Monfore Montford
1049 Antrim Antrim Upper Donegore Ballyclaverty Ballyclaverty John Monfood Montford
152 Antrim Glenarm Upper Larne Larne Town Larne Parish & Towne Jo Munfudd Montford
198 Antrim Glenarm Upper Larne Larne Town Larne Parish & Towne Jam Monfudd Montford
1430 L'Derry N E Liberties of Coleraine Ballyaghran Kiltinny Killenny Robt Montfod Montford
good luck onwards