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Re: My Ramsays, and all the other families that they married into
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 09 May 20 21:20 BST (UK) »
Generation 6 Note 10

1871 Scotland Census Name: Ann RAMSAY Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : William DARGIE Gender: Female Where born:
Monikie, Forfarshire Registration Number: 311 Registration district: Monikie Civil
Parish: Monikie County: Angus Address: BogHALL ED: 4 Household schedule
number: 27 LINE: 11 Roll: CSSCT1871_58 Household Members: Name Age
William DARGIE 50 Ann RAMSAY 37 Mary DARGIE 8 William DARGIE 6 David DARGIE 1
Mary DARGIE 58 James LESLIE 14

1881 Scotland Census Name: Ann DARGIE Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : William DARGIE Gender: Female Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire. Registration Number: 311 Registration district: Monikie Civil Parish: Monikie County: Angus Address: Boghall Occupation: Farmer'S Wife ED: 4 Household schedule number: 52 LINE: 10 Roll: cssct1881_95 Household Members: Name Age William DARGIE 60 Ann DARGIE 45
William DARGIE 16 David DARGIE 10 Flora Ann DARGIE 9 Agnes Jack DARGIE 7 Mary
DARGIE 69 Alexander STEWART 29 Peter MCLAREN 14 John MCKENZIE 59

1901 Scotland Census Name: Ann DARGIE Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relationship: Grandmother, Grandma (Grandmother) Gender: Female Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire Registration Number: 274 Registration district: Barry Civil Parish: Barry County: Angus Address: Queen St Maulesbank Occupation: Retired Washerwoman ED: 1 Household schedule number: 111 LINE: 21 Roll: CSSCT1901_87 Household Members: Name Age James MCLAREN 23 Flora Ann MCLAREN 28 Ann DARGIE 65 Aggie J DARGIE 27 William DARGIE 5 David MCLAREN 2

iv. MARJORY RAMSAY was born on 14 May 1839 in Guildie, Monikie, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom. She died in 1859 in Panbride, Angus, , Scotland. She married William NICOLL on 08 Dec 1858 in Monikie, Angus, Scotland.
Notes for Marjory RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Marjory RAMSAY Gender:
Female Birth Date: 14 MAY 1839 Baptism Date: 2 Jun 1839 Baptism Place:
Monikie,Angus,Scotland Father: David RAMSAY Mother: Margaret LUMGAIR FHL
Film Number: 993494

Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 Name: Marjory RAMSAY Gender: Female Marriage Date: 8 Dec 1858 Marriage Place: Monikie,Angus,Scotland Spouse: William NICOLL FHL Film Number: 6035516
Notes for William NICOLL:

Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 about William NICOLL Name: William NICOLL
Gender: Male Marriage Date: 8 Dec 1858 Marriage Place:
Monikie,Angus,Scotland Spouse: Marjory RAMSAY FHL Film Number: 6035516

v. FLORA RAMSAY was born about 1841 in Dundee, Forfarshire.

vi. JANE RAMSAY was born on 29 Jul 1841 in Monikie, Angus, Scotland. She died on 14
Jan 1923 in Broughty Ferry, Angus, Scotland.
Notes for Jane RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Jane RAMSAY Gender:
Female Birth Date: 29 Jul 1841 Baptism Date: 15 Aug 1841 Baptism Place:
Monikie,Angus,Scotland Father: David RAMSAY Mother: Margaret LUMGAIR FHL
Film Number: 993494

1851 Scotland Census Name: Jane RAMSAY Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Relationship: Daughter Father: David RAMSAY Mother: Margaret RAMSAY Gender: Female Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire Parish Number: 311 Civil Parish: Monikie Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Guildie County: Address: Guildie Occupation: Scholar ED: 3 Page: 12 Household schedule number: 54 LINE: 18 Roll: CSSCT1851_67 Household Members: Name Age David RAMSAY 42 Margaret RAMSAY 38 Ann RAMSAY 13 Jane RAMSAY 9 Elisabeth RAMSAY 7 Helen RAMSAY 5 Agness RAMSAY 3 David RAMSAY 11

1861 Scotland Census Name: Jane RAMSAY Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: David RAMSAY Mother's Name: Margaret RAMSAY
Gender: Female Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire Registration Number: 311 Registration district: Monikie Civil Parish: Monikie County: Address: Guildiemuir Occupation: Linnen Weaver ED: 3 Household schedule number: 44 LINE: 3 Roll: CSSCT1861_44 Household Members: Name Age David RAMSAY 54 Margaret RAMSAY 50 Jane RAMSAY 20 Agnes RAMSAY 14 David RAMSAY 12 Alexander RAMSAY 10 James SPALDING 3

vii. ELIZABETH RAMSAY was born on 04 Jun 1843 in Guildie, Monikie, Angus, Scotland. She died on 14 Jan 1923 in 2 Brook St, Broughty Ferry, Angus (Valvular disease of heart). She married George LUMSDEN, son of George LUMSDEN and Elspet Guillen, on 22 Mar 1862 in Manse of Monikie, Angus, Scotland. He was born in 1841 in Balmerino, Fife.

Notes for Elizabeth RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Elisabeth RAMSAY Gender: Female Birth Date: 4 Jun 1843 Baptism Date: 26 Jul 1843 Baptism Place: Monikie,Angus,Scotland Father: David RAMSAY Mother: Margaret LUMGAIR FHL Film Number: 993494

Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 Name: Elizabeth RAMSAY Gender: Female Marriage Date: 22 Mar 1862 Marriage Place: Monikie,Angus,Scotland Spouse: George LUMSDEN FHL Film Number: 6035516

1923 282/5 12 Elizabeth Ramsay LUMSDEN widow of George LUMSDEN, farm servant died 14 Jan 1923 at 3.2 Brook St, Broughty Ferry, age 80 parents David RAMSAY and Margaret LUMGAIR (both dec) cause Valvular disease of heart reported by James CRIMMOND, son-In-law

UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current Name: Elizabeth RAMSAY Death Date: 1923 Cemetery: Barry Kirkyard Burial or Cremation Place: Barry, Angus, Scotland Has Bio?: N










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Re: My Ramsays, and all the other families that they married into
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 10 May 20 21:59 BST (UK) »
Generation 6 Note 11

Notes for George LUMSDEN:

Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 about George LUMSDEN Name: George LUMSDEN Gender: Male Marriage Date: 22 Mar 1862 Marriage Place: Monikie,Angus,Scotland Spouse: Elizabeth RAMSAY FHL Film Number: 6035516

1861 Scotland Census about George LUMSDEN Name: George LUMSDEN Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Gender: Male Where born: Balmerino, Fifeshire Registration Number: 313 Registration district: Murroes Civil Parish: Murroes County: Angus Address: Whitehouse Bothy Occupation: Ploughman ED: 1 Household schedule number: 56 LINE: 15 Roll: CSSCT1861_45 Household Members: Name Age Thomas EASSON 22 George LUMSDEN 25 David BUTCHART 17 David MCINTYRE 16 William MCINTYRE 11 David Ogilvy 37 George ANDREW 29

1871 Scotland Census about George LUMSDEN Name: George LUMSDEN Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elizabeth LUMSDEN Gender: Male Where born: Balmerno, Fifeshire Registration Number: 322 Registration district: Tealing Civil Parish: Tealing County: Angus Address: Upper Finlarg Occupation: Ag Lab ED: 1 Household schedule number: 59 LINE: 1 Roll: CSSCT1871_59 Household Members: Name Age George LUMSDEN 29 Elizabeth LUMSDEN 27 William LUMSDEN 9 Margaret LUMSDEN 7 Elizabeth
LUMSDEN 5 George LUMSDEN 3 Helen LUMSDEN 1

1881 Scotland Census about George LUMSDEN Name: George LUMSDEN Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elizabeth LUMSDEN Gender: Male
Where born: Balmerino, Fifeshire Registration Number: 297 Registration district: Kinnettles Civil Parish: Kinnettles County: Angus Address: Mains Cottar House Occupation: Farm Servant ED: 1 Household schedule number: 81 LINE: 18 Roll: cssct1881_92 Household Members: Name Age George LUMSDEN 38 Elizabeth LUMSDEN 36 George LUMSDEN 13 Mary LUMSDEN 9 Thomas LUMSDEN 8 David LUMSDEN 5 Agnes LUMSDEN 1

1891 Scotland Census about George LUMSDEN Name: George LUMSDEN Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elizabeth LUMSDEN Gender: Male Where born: Balemartine, Fifeshire Registration Number: 310 Registration district: Monifieth
Civil Parish: Monifieth Town: Broughty Ferry County: Angus Address: 5 Derby Place Occupation: Nursery Van Driver ED: 4 Household schedule number: 142 LINE: 1 Roll: CSSCT1891_103 Household Members: Name Age George LUMSDEN 49 Elizabeth LUMSDEN 47 Agness C LUMSDEN 11 Elizabeth R LUMSDEN 9 Alexander O LUMSDEN 7

viii. HELEN RAMSAY was born on 24 Apr 1845 in Guildie, Monikie, Angus, Scotland,
United Kingdom.

Notes for Helen RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Helen RAMSAY Gender: Female Birth Date: 24 Apr 1845 Baptism Date: 16 MAY 1845 Baptism Place: Monikie,Angus,Scotland Father: David RAMSAY Mother: Margaret LUMGAIR FHL Film Number: 993494

1851 Scotland Census Name: Helen RAMSAY Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relationship: Daughter Father: David RAMSAY Mother: Margaret RAMSAY Gender: Female Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire Parish Number: 311 Civil Parish: Monikie Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Guildie County: Address: Guildie ED: 3 Page: 12 Household schedule number: 54 LINE: 20 Roll: CSSCT1851_67
Household Members: Name Age David RAMSAY 42 Margaret RAMSAY 38 Ann RAMSAY 13 Jane RAMSAY 9 Elisabeth RAMSAY 7 Helen RAMSAY 5 Agness RAMSAY 3 David RAMSAY 11

1871 Scotland Census Name: Ellen RAMSAY Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: David RAMSAY Mother's Name: Margaret LUMGAIR Gender: Female Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire Registration Number: 311 Registration district: Monikie Civil Parish: Monikie County: Angus Address: Guildie Muir Occupation: Farmers Daur ED: 3 Household schedule number: 63 LINE: 3 Roll: CSSCT1871_58 Household Members: Name Age David RAMSAY 65 Margaret LUMGAIR 61 Ellen RAMSAY 26 David RAMSAY 21 Alexr RAMSAY 18

ix. AGNES MCKIE RAMSAY was born on 29 Sep 1847 in Guildie, Monikie, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom. She died on 13 Dec 1917 in Crossgates, Cupar, Fife, Scotland, United Kingdom. She died on 13 Dec 1917 in Crossgates, Cupar, Fife, Scotland. She married William WALLS on 16 Dec 1867 in Monikie, Angus, , Scotland. She was born in 1840.
Notes for Agnes Mckie RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Agnes Mckie RAMSAY Gender: Female Birth Date: 29 Sep 1847 Baptism Date: 14 Nov 1847 Baptism Place: Monikie,Angus,Scotland Father: David RAMSAY Mother: Margaret LUMGAIR FHL Film Number: 993494

1851 Scotland Census Name: Agness RAMSAY Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relationship: Daughter (Child) Father: David RAMSAY Mother: Margaret RAMSAY Gender: Female Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire Parish Number: 311 Civil Parish: Monikie Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Guildie County: Angus
Address: Guildie ED: 3 Page: 13 Household schedule number: 54 LINE: 1 Roll: CSSCT1851_67 Household Members: Name Age David RAMSAY 42 Margaret RAMSAY 38 Ann RAMSAY 13 Jane RAMSAY 9 Elisabeth RAMSAY 7 Helen RAMSAY 5 Agness RAMSAY 3 David RAMSAY 11



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Re: My Ramsays, and all the other families that they married into
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 12 May 20 00:59 BST (UK) »
Generation 6 Note 12

1861 Scotland Census Name: Agnes RAMSAY Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relationship: Daughter (Child) Father's Name: David RAMSAY Mother's Name: Margaret RAMSAY Gender: Female Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire Registration Number: 311 Registration district: Monikie Civil Parish: Monikie County: Angus Address: Guildiemuir
Occupation: Scholar ED: 3 Household schedule number: 44 LINE: 4 Roll: CSSCT1861_44 Household Members: Name Age David RAMSAY 54 Margaret RAMSAY 50 Jane RAMSAY 20 Agnes RAMSAY 14 David RAMSAY 12 Alexander RAMSAY 10 James SPALDING 3

x. DAVID RAMSAY was born on 19 Nov 1849 in Guildie, Monikie, Angus, Scotland. He died on 21 Jan 1944 in Ormiston Guildy, Monikie, Angus. He married Ann CAMPBELL on 07 Nov 1875 in Guildiemuir, Monikie. She was born on 11 May 1852 in Durness, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. She died on 30 May 1924 in Monikie, Angus, Scotland.

xi. ALEXANDER RAMSAY was born on 07 Sep 1853 in Monikie, Angus, Scotland. He died
on 02 Mar 1926 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland. He married MARY ANN MILNE. She
was born in 1858 in Montrose, Forfarshire.


WILLIAM6 RAMSAY (Samuel5, David4, David3, George2, George1) was born on 23 Jun 1810 in
Monikie, Angus, Scotland. He died on 25 Jan 1882 in 39 East Abbey St, Arbroath, Angus
(Congestion of Lungs). He married Margaret MAXWELL, daughter of John MAXWELL and Helen HAY, on 25 Oct 1829 in Dunnichen, Angus, Scotland. She was born on 30 Sep 1806 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland. She died on 31 Aug 1897 in 16 North Ellen Street, Dundee, Angus, Scotland.
Notes for William RAMSAY:

Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 Name: William RAMSAY Gender: Male Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1829 Marriage Place: Dunnichen,Angus,Scotland Spouse: Margaret MAXWELL FHL Film
Number: 993444

1841 census/319 Place: St Vigeans-Angus Enumeration District: 5 Civil Parish: St.Vigeans Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 5 Page: 7 Address: Dickmontlaw Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks RAMSAY William M 30 Agricultural Labourer Angus RAMSAY Margret F 30 Angus RAMSAY Jane F 8 Angus RAMSAY Peter M 6 Angus RAMSAY Alexander M 3 Angus RAMSAY Barbary F 1 Angus

1851 Scotland Census Name: William RAMSAY Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relationship: Head Spouse: Margrit RAMSAY Gender: Male Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire Parish Number: 319 Civil Parish: St Vigeans Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Estate of Dickmontlaw County: Address: Dickmontlaw Farm Servant House Occupation: Farm Lab ED: 3 4 Page: 14 Household schedule number: 7 LINE: 9 Roll: CSSCT1851_69 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 43 Margrit RAMSAY 44 Barbra RAMSAY 10 Helen RAMSAY 7 Mary RAMSAY 5 William RAMSAY 2 David RAMSAY 21
William BISHIE 17 James MILNE 15

1861 Scotland Census Name: William RAMSAY Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Margt RAMSAY Gender: Male Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire Registration Number: 319 Registration district: St Vigeans Civil Parish: St Vigeans County: Address: Little Tarry Occupation: Agri Labourer ED: 2 Household

Notes for Margaret MAXWELL:

 07 June 1841, Census: Dickmontlaw, St Vigeans, Angus. Residing with husband. Born Angus. Aged: 30

Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 about Margaret MAXWELL Name: Margaret MAXWELL Gender: Female Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1829 Marriage Place: Dunnichen,Angus,Scotland Spouse: William RAMSAY FHL Film Number: 993444

1841 Scotland Census about Margret RAMSAY Name: Margret RAMSAY Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Female Where born: Angus, Scotland Civil Parish: Forfar County: Angus Address: Gerthboter House Parish Number: 288 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 40 Margret RAMSAY 30 Elisabeth RAMSAY 9 David RAMSAY 9 Margret RAMSAY 5 William RAMSAY 3 James RAMSAY 1 David STERLING 55 Catren STERLING 45 Catren STERLING 15 David STERLING 10 Mary STERLING 6 Margret ALDERDICE 10 Catren ALDERDICE 20

1851 Scotland Census Parish: St Vigeans County: Address: Little Tarry Occupation: Agri Labourer ED: 2 Household schedule number: 23 LINE: 22 Roll: CSSCT1861_46 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 53 Margt RAMSAY 54 Mary RAMSAY 15 William RAMSAY 12 Susan RAMSAY 9

1882 272 44 (death) William RAMSAY, farm servant, age 73 married to Margaret MAXWELL died 25 jan 1882 at 39 East Abbey St, Arbroath parents Samuel RAMSAY and Jane ANDERSON, both dec cause Congestion of Lungs Reported by Alexander Ramssay, son, 19 St Vigeans Road, Arbroath
Note: Cannot find William's baptism In Monikie, Angus, Scotland OPR. Parents established
through death certificate

UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current Name: William RAMSAY Birth Date: 1809 Birth Place: Monikie, Angus, Scotland Death Date: 25 Jan 1882 Death Place: Arbroath, Angus, Scotland Cemetery: Western Cemetery, Arbroath Burial or Cremation Place: Arbroath, Angus, Scotland Has Bio?: Y Father: Samuel RAMSAY the farm That William worked on was called Dickmontlaw Farm owned by James Pattulo and that is where Susan gets her middle name

Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 Name: William RAMSAY Gender: Male Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1829 Marriage Place: Dunnichen,Angus,Scotland Spouse: Margaret MAXWELL FHL Film
Number: 993444












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Re: My Ramsays, and all the other families that they married into
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 12 May 20 03:06 BST (UK) »
Hello JBundy,
I assume that the reference 'Susan gets her second name' is the Susan Ramsay aged 9?

"1851 Scotland Census Parish: St Vigeans County: Address: Little Tarry Occupation: Agri Labourer ED: 2 Household schedule number: 23 LINE: 22 Roll: CSSCT1861_46 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 53 Margt RAMSAY 54 Mary RAMSAY 15 William RAMSAY 12 Susan RAMSAY 9

1882 272 44 (death) William RAMSAY, farm servant, age 73 married to Margaret MAXWELL died 25 jan 1882 at 39 East Abbey St, Arbroath parents Samuel RAMSAY and Jane ANDERSON, both dec cause Congestion of Lungs Reported by Alexander Ramssay, son, 19 St Vigeans Road, Arbroath
Note: Cannot find William's baptism In Monikie, Angus, Scotland OPR. Parents established
through death certificate

UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current Name: William RAMSAY Birth Date: 1809 Birth Place: Monikie, Angus, Scotland Death Date: 25 Jan 1882 Death Place: Arbroath, Angus, Scotland Cemetery: Western Cemetery, Arbroath Burial or Cremation Place: Arbroath, Angus, Scotland Has Bio?: Y Father: Samuel RAMSAY the farm That William worked on was called Dickmontlaw Farm owned by James Pattulo and that is where Susan gets her middle name

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Re: My Ramsays, and all the other families that they married into
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 12 May 20 04:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Jack. I assumed that, but good to get confirmation of it.
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Re: My Ramsays, and all the other families that they married into
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 12 May 20 07:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Jbundy,
when i googled Duckmontlaw the following popped up.

Ordinance Survey Book 1857-1881 [Volume 80 - OS1/14/80/100]
Duckmount law - the name applies to a hill about a mile east of the parish church and is the Duckmount Law Farm.
Parish St.Vigeans
Forfarshire[Angus]

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Re: My Ramsays, and all the other families that they married into
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 13 May 20 02:18 BST (UK) »
It's amazing how many of my Ramsays lived in so many Angus parishes over the centuries. In my direct line, my last Ramsay to have been born and raised in Angus was my ggrandfather David Ramsay (1852-1912) who was born at Dunnichen Angus. By 1871 he had moved to Glasgow and worked as a Draper. In 1878 he married an ambitious young woman Annie Dunlop, and he became a salesman for a large clothing manufacturer, gradually rising to become the partner in Murdoch and Ramsay, which a clothing factory and a sales outlet at Prince's Square. Their eldest son James Ramsay, not wanting anything to do with the family business) joined the Lanarkshire Militia in his teens, volunteered for the Boer War at 22 serving in the Second Scottish Rifles and the Canada Scouts, served in WW1 at 38 in the CEF. By then he and his wife had moved to Canada, and had 2 daughters. One was my mother. My son and I along with one of my Brown cousins at Glasgow, took a day trip over to Angus in 2000, and we visited several locations, including churchyards. One of the headstones from the 1700s at Longforgan had a skull and cross bones and stated "I am here now, but you will be soon". It sort of freaked my son out. :) 
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Re: My Ramsays, and all the other families that they married into
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 13 May 20 20:10 BST (UK) »
Generation 6 Note 13

1841 census/319 Place: St Vigeans-Angus Enumeration District: 5 Civil Parish: St.Vigeans Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 5 Page: 7 Address: Dickmontlaw Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks RAMSAY William M 30 Agricultural Labourer Angus RAMSAY Margret F 30 Angus RAMSAY Jane F 8 Angus RAMSAY Peter M 6 Angus RAMSAY Alexander M 3 Angus RAMSAY Barbary F 1 Angus

1851 Scotland Census Name: William RAMSAY Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relationship: Head Spouse: Margrit RAMSAY Gender: Male Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire Parish Number: 319 Civil Parish: St Vigeans Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Estate of Dickmontlaw County: Address: Dickmontlaw Farm Servant House Occupation: Farm Lab ED: 3 4 Page: 14 Household schedule number: 7 LINE: 9 Roll: CSSCT1851_69 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 43 Margrit RAMSAY 44 Barbra RAMSAY 10 Helen RAMSAY 7 Mary RAMSAY 5 William RAMSAY 2 David RAMSAY 21
William BISHIE 17 James MILNE 15

1861 Scotland Census Name: William RAMSAY Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Margt RAMSAY Gender: Male Where born: Monikie, Forfarshire Registration Number: 319 Registration district: St Vigeans Civil Parish: St Vigeans County: Address: Little Tarry Occupation: Agri Labourer ED: 2 Household

Notes for Margaret MAXWELL:

 07 June 1841, Census: Dickmontlaw, St Vigeans, Angus. Residing with husband. Born Angus. Aged: 30

Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 about Margaret MAXWELL Name: Margaret MAXWELL Gender: Female Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1829 Marriage Place: Dunnichen,Angus,Scotland Spouse: William RAMSAY FHL Film Number: 993444

1841 Scotland Census about Margret RAMSAY Name: Margret RAMSAY Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Female Where born: Angus, Scotland Civil Parish: Forfar County: Angus Address: Gerthboter House Parish Number: 288 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 40 Margret RAMSAY 30 Elisabeth RAMSAY 9 David RAMSAY 9 Margret RAMSAY 5 William RAMSAY 3 James RAMSAY 1 David STERLING 55 Catren STERLING 45 Catren STERLING 15 David STERLING 10 Mary STERLING 6 Margret ALDERDICE 10 Catren ALDERDICE 20

1851 Scotland Census Parish: St Vigeans County: Address: Little Tarry Occupation: Agri Labourer ED: 2 Household schedule number: 23 LINE: 22 Roll: CSSCT1861_46 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 53 Margt RAMSAY 54 Mary RAMSAY 15 William RAMSAY 12 Susan RAMSAY 9

1882 272 44 (death) William RAMSAY, farm servant, age 73 married to Margaret MAXWELL died 25 jan 1882 at 39 East Abbey St, Arbroath parents Samuel RAMSAY and Jane ANDERSON, both dec cause Congestion of Lungs Reported by Alexander Ramssay, son, 19 St Vigeans Road, Arbroath
Note: Cannot find William's baptism In Monikie, Angus, Scotland OPR. Parents established
through death certificate

UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current Name: William RAMSAY Birth Date: 1809 Birth Place: Monikie, Angus, Scotland Death Date: 25 Jan 1882 Death Place: Arbroath, Angus, Scotland Cemetery: Western Cemetery, Arbroath Burial or Cremation Place: Arbroath, Angus, Scotland Has Bio?: Y Father: Samuel RAMSAY the farm That William worked on was called Dickmontlaw Farm owned by James Pattulo and that is where Susan gets her middle name

1851 Scotland Census about Margt RAMSAY Name: Margt RAMSAY Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relationship: Wife Spouse: William RAMSAY Gender: Female Where born: Carmylie, Forfarshire Parish Number: 289 Civil Parish: Glamis Town: Spinning Mill County: Angus
Address: Spinning Mill ED: 1 Page: 24 Household schedule number: 114 LINE: 6 Roll:
CSSCT1851_65 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 49 Margt RAMSAY 41 Margt
RAMSAY 15 James RAMSAY 11 Robert RAMSAY 8 ARCHIBALD RAMSAY 7 Alexr RAMSAY 4
Mary RAMSAY 1

1861 Scotland Census about Margaret RAMSAY Name: Margaret RAMSAY
[Margaret CLARK] Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name :
William RAMSAY Mother's Name: Marygaret CLARK Gender: Female Where born: Carmyllie,
Forfarshire Registration Number: 276 Registration district: Carmyllie Civil Parish: Carmyllie
County: Angus Address: Goat ED: 2 Household schedule number: 67 LINE: 11 Roll:
CSSCT1861_37 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 59 Margaret RAMSAY 50
Margaret RAMSAY 23 James RAMSAY 21 Robert RAMSAY 19 Alexander RAMSAY 14 Charles
RAMSAY 8 John RAMSAY 6 Marygaret CLARK 88

1871 Scotland Census about Margaret RAMSAY Name: Margaret RAMSAY Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : William RAMSAY Gender: Female Where born: Carmyllie, Forfarshire Registration Number: 276 Registration district: Carmyllie Civil Parish: Carmyllie County: Angus Address: Goat ED: 2 Household schedule number: 53 LINE: 11 Roll: CSSCT1871_48 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 70 Margaret RAMSAY 61 David RAMSAY 36 Margt RAMSAY 34

1881 Scotland Census about Margaret RAMSAY Name: Margaret RAMSAY Age: 73 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : William RAMSAY Gender: Female Where born: Carmyllie, Forfarshire Registration Number: 276 Registration district: Carmyllie Civil Parish: Carmyllie County: Angus Address: West Goat ED: 2 Household schedule number: 17 LINE: 17 Roll: cssct1881_79 Household Members: Name Age William RAMSAY 80 Margaret RAMSAY 73