Should I rule out both of the following two marriages

[jim234j]

My wifes 3 great grandfather was a James Worsfold who passed away in Petworth Sussex 1826.
I do not know where he was born but Surrey would seem to be very likely qlthough Petworth and area  cannot be ruled out

However I am trying to find his marriage and have come across two which may be in the running.

I know his 5 children were all born in Woking Surrey from 1812 to 1818 and his wife first name was Ann who birth place is  listed as Petworth on the 1851 census for Worthing but was wondering if this was a mistake.  This is the only census I can find her on as she passed in 1860

I could not find a marriage for a James Worsfold to a Ann in the Sussex that fit  but I found these two on Bishops transcripts in  Surrey.  The witnesses were not family members on either

NameAnn HedgerGender FemaleMarriage Date14 Jun 1803Marriage Place Cranley,Surrey,EnglandSpouseJames WorsfoldFHL Film Number97135

NameAnn WoodyerGenderFemaleMarriage Date02 Jun 1805Marriage PlaceWest Clandon,Surrey,EnglandSpouseJames Worsfold


thank you and best wishes from Canada

[ColC]

Sadly I cannot find an alternative marriage but both seem a little early given that the first child James born 1813. However the birth/baptism records at Woking St. Peter on Ancestry do not begin until 1813 so there may have been more earlier and no marriage records there on Ancestry?

I did notice that the children's record were very had to read and in two cases the Bishops Transcripts differed from the parish record. I one case both were listed, the PR was Frances and the BT was Thomas,  another was Elisdd on BT was Emma on the PR but only recorded once.I think Frances so I think there were only 4 children.

Colin

[ColC]

James & Ann had two children at West Clandon, Surrey

John Worsfold 29 Dec 1805 - William Worsfold 13 Dec 1807

So did they move to Woking?

No records at Cranley for James & Ann.

Colin

[rosie99]

The James & Ann who married in West Clandon had the following children baptised at West Clandon
John 1805
William 1807

West Clandon is only about 4 miles from St Peters in (Old) Woking

Colin beat me to it

[jim234j]

Thank you both so much. 
During this period of staying indoors I decided to look at directs where I have come to a grinding halt.
This has been caused by lack of knowledge of the area in some cases  and lack of knowledge where to get the records.
I look at Ancestry, and the LDS site


You both helped me greatly to not go veering off course totally. 

I think if one of the two Surrey marriages is likely it would be Ann Woodyer in West Clandon.
if it is the one they also had two children in West Clandon and since it is only 4 miles away I will take that is the "likely" one for now.  I will not make it anymore then likely as there is that 6 year spread that may be explained by the lack of Woking baptism records for that period

I cannot find any marriage for James in Woking on Ancestry nor the LDS site. 

Thank you again.   I never thought when I started on the Worsfold surname how many families there were with that surname in a fairly small area. 

Jim

[rosie99]

Just adding this to the mix (Sorry)
James Worsfold
Hannah Chapman
Marriage 25 Jun 1802
Marriage place   Woking
By Banns

This is just a transcript and does not 'name' a church but it is probably St Peters as that was the parish church of Woking at the time

[ColC]

The James Worsfold Marriage 25 Jun 1802 to Hannah Chapman
Marriage Place:   St Peter, Woking, Parishes not in a Borough, Surrey, England

Sadly the record is very badly faded but it does confirm it was them witnesses are barely legible.

I noticed earlier that there were baptisms for them at St Peter

James 2 Jan 1803, (Burial noted Feb 03 & 1804, Father James)
Hannah 15 Jun 1806,
William 6 Dec 1807 (Burial 12 Jan 1808, Father James)

None later as far as I can see?

Colin
   

[..claire..]

Hi

In regards to the Woking marriage to Hannah Chapman I think the witnesses were possibly Wm Bedford and Jn Bedford.

What is interesting is the next marriage in the register, which was of an Edward Worsfold to a Phoebe Bird. Married 22 August 1802, maybe a relation.

ColC is right though the registers are very faded.

[jim234j]

I am pretty sure that James married a Ann. 
Here is their daughter Frances baptism

NameFrances WorsfoldBaptism
Date29 Aug 1816Baptism
PlaceWoking, St Peter, SurreyFatherJames WorsfoldMotherAnn WorsfoldHousehold
Members
NameFrances WorsfoldAgeNameAnn WorsfoldAgeNameJames Worsfold
One thing I noticed was James was a shopkeeper on this baptism.   I wonder if that would help me in anyway to find out more about him.

So then the question comes did James and Ann marry in Woking also and if there is a strong chance does that put Ann Woodyer out of the running. 

Jim