Is This Woman James Cooke's Sister or Wife on 1851 Census? Help lookup please.

[Rebecca Totten]

I seem to have come to a confusing stop regarding research on James Cooke born 1830 Long Whatton Married a Mary Haywood . I went to go furthur back with his supposed mother Ellen ? and his father Willm. Cooke not had much success there though.

Anyway back to my confustion, I found an 1841 Census with Ellen as Head, James Cooke, Mary Cooke and a Lilly Cooke. It seems like Ellen was classed as Widowed.
1841 Census:
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8978&h=15261067&tid=54121311&pid=192184310166&hid=1013165348514&usePUB=true&_phsrc=yFn640&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true&currentPageIsStart=

1851 Census:
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8860&h=9657353&ssrc=pt&tid=54121311&pid=192185141833&usePUB=true

I then find an 1851 Census with them all on again. However James Married Mary Haywood in 1850 and it looks like she is on the 1851 Census but what would have happened to his sister Mary Cooke?

I would have assumed that after Marriage they live togeather back then? Mary Cooke is listed as Daughter of Head and married in the 1851 Census.

I cant seem to find Mary Cooke from the 1841 census anywhere and it just keeps giving me info for Mary Haywood as Cooke, Im really confused and its put me at a bit of a standstill.

Looking for help on trying to figure this out, hopefully i have explained it ok.

[diddymiller]

1851 Mary cook could be down as daughter even though daughter in law. Mary cook daughter may have died / married.


Once library reopens I could have a look in long Whatton records. May be a wait!


Diddy

[Rebecca Totten]

1851 Mary cook could be down as daughter even though daughter in law. Mary cook daughter may have died / married.


Once library reopens I could have a look in long Whatton records. May be a wait!


Diddy

That would make sense. That would be nice of you to do when the libraries do open back up and i dont mind the wait. I can always switch to another part of my family tree If im still stuck by the time there back open i will send you a message if thats ok.

[diddymiller]

good idea, cos ill probably forget!


Diddy 

[Ladyhawk]

James Cook
Baptism 21 Feb 1830 Long Whatton,Leicester
Father:   Willm. Cook Mother:   Ellen

I seem to have come to a confusing stop regarding research on James Cooke born 1830 Long Whatton Married a Mary Haywood .

1851 Census:
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8860&h=9657353&ssrc=pt&tid=54121311&pid=192185141833&usePUB=true

I then find an 1851 Census with them all on again.

However James Married Mary Haywood in 1850 and it looks like she is on the 1851 Census but what would have happened to his sister Mary

Edit to add

1871 Census
Church Gate and Steeple Row, Loughborough, Leicestershire

James Cooke Head Walton Leicestershire Occ engine driver at hosiery factory
Mary   Cooke Wife    b Loughborough Leicestershire
Charles Cooke Son b Leicestershire
Harry   Cooke   Son.   Leicestershire
Sarah Ann Cooke   Dau. B Leicestershire
William Cooke Son B Leicestershire
Arthur Cooke Son.  b Leicestershire
Albert Cooke Son b Leicestershire
Thomas Cooke Son b Leicestershire
James Cooke Son b  Leicestershire

COOKE, CHARLES       Mmn HAYWOOD 
1851  J Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH  Volume 15  Page 177

COOKE, JAMES    mmn   HAYWOOD 
1870  S Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH  Volume 07A  Page 106

1861 RG9/ 2273 /87 p   4
James Cooke   31 Mary 30 Charles 10 Henry 7 Sarah Ann 5 William 2

[Ladyhawk]

Could this be a possibility ?

Wm. Cook m Eleanor Tacey
30 Sep 1816 Hathern, Leicester

[trish1120]

Baptisms to WILLIAM/ELLEN Long Whatton;
WILLIAM 7 January 1821
WILLIAM 23 Apr 1826
CHARLES 30 Mar 1828
JAMES 21 Feb 1830
MARY 9 Sep 1832
LILLY 19 Oct 1834
(Source Familysearch.Org)


Also on there Marriage ;
8 June 1850
Loughborough, Leicestershire
Mary COOKE, Father WILLIAM to William Archbolt SETCHELL, Father ELISHA

1851 Census
Derby, Derbyshire
William A Setchell 35 Head Mar Shoemaker/Chelsea Pensioner born Keysoe, Bedfordshire
Mary A Setchell   27 Wife Mar born Derby, Derbyshire
Elisha Setchell   9 Son born Longborough, Leicestershire*****
Ellen Setchell   4
Sarah A Setchell 2
Emily Setchell   1
Children all born Leics


SETCHELL, ELISHA mmn COOKE**** 
GRO Reference: 1851  S Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH  Volume 15  Page 177

The Mary above is the second Wife of William.
They married 25 Mar 1861 Derbyshire, she was a Spinster, he was Widowed

1851 Census
Loughborough, Leicestershire
William Setwell   25 Head Mar Cordwainer born BED, Reysoc
Mary Setwell 19 Wife Mar born Watton, Leicestershire******

Terrible image for that 1851 on Anc

Death Reg;
SETCHELL, MARY age   26 
GRO Reference: 1860  J Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH  Volume 07A  Page 72

Trish

[trish1120]

William 1826 and Charles 1828 are pretty easy to find on Census.
They are both living away from home in 1841

[Rebecca Totten]

William 1826 and Charles 1828 are pretty easy to find on Census.
They are both living away from home in 1841

Hi, sorry for leaving my reply so long. All the information you gave me seems to fit in, thank you very much 

I was wondering if you would be able to help me again. I have been struggling with William Cookes death (James Cookes Father). I believe he may have died before 1841 as he is not listed on the 1841 census with Ellen (Elenor Tacey who i now have) and on the 1851 census she is listed as widowed, i only found one death record 1839 died aged 41 which would put him born around 1798 but i cant seem to find anything so far on his birth record. I was hoping to find there actuall copy of marriage for more information like parents, but i can only find an index.