Arthur White born around 1896

[AuntieMomo]

Thanks all for this!

The Whites and Halls were at the same address in the 1911 Census, but were on separate census pages so unknown if they were just all living together or the parents were a couple.  However, in the Scottish marriage entry, Arthur does state that Jessie White, maiden surname Hall, is his mother.  This is how I found him in the England census amongst all the other Arthur Whites.

I know that he says that he's single for his second marriage.  The first marriage was legal, but there's no record of divorce so I guess he must have been a naughty boy and not mentioned his first marriage.  I have no knowledge of how they would check these things across the 2 countries in those days.

Chempat - many thanks for tracking down the 1901 census entry, it does seem to be the same family, if a bit mixed up, and gives me the mother. Hopefully this should give me a bit more to go on.

The family tree on Ancestry was the Bartlett family tree, so I've written to the person who created it to ask if there is any family gossip on Arthur.  I didn't bring up his first wife!

[heywood]

Thanks for the explanation.
Was his father named on the marriage in Scotland?

[AuntieMomo]

Thanks for the explanation.
Was his father named on the marriage in Scotland?

Yes, he was: father Frederick White, mother Jessie White M.S. Hall. Arthur's profession was dock-worker and his age was given as 23.  He was living at 7 Sword's Wynd in Falkirk.

[heywood]

Here is 1891 540/116
Plumstead
Frederick A White 33 yrs General Labourer b Southampton
Ellen White 30 yrs B Dartford
Thomas White 10 yrs b Dartford
Frederick A White 1yr b Plumstead

[heywood]

We aren’t allowed to post 1939 information but that may help you re Jessie and Frederick.

[AuntieMomo]

We aren’t allowed to post 1939 information but that may help you re Jessie and Frederick.

Thanks Heywood.  I've been looking for the past hour and not managed to find this.  The ages of the children do seem mixed up between censuses.

I didn't know that about the post-1939 information, so not sure what you mean, but I will keep on searching.  Appreciate this all very much.  I'm rusty on Ancestry, it takes a lot of different search terms to get what you want.

[heywood]

Sorry, I just meant that Rootschat policy is not to give any information re 1939 register because of copyright.
I just meant it would be useful to check that register.

[AuntieMomo]

Sorry, I just meant that Rootschat policy is not to give any information re 1939 register because of copyright.
I just meant it would be useful to check that register.

Smashing, thank you    I will do!

[Annette7]

Did some checking and Jessie Hall's maiden name was Morley.   In 1911 the 3 year Ellen White, dau. of Frederick Albert had her birth registered Dec.1907 West Ham, mmn Morley!!

Jessie would have been too old to be the mother of Ellen so who was?

Annette