Author Topic: Eliza Hibbert/Rolton/Green Auckland NZ c 1836 - 1919  (Read 1471 times)

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Re: Eliza Hibbert/Rolton/Green Auckland NZ c 1836 - 1919
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 April 20 23:06 BST (UK) »
As was I because my brain was obviously out for the night.
I’ve corrected it in the first post now.

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Re: Eliza Hibbert/Rolton/Green Auckland NZ c 1836 - 1919
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 26 April 20 23:45 BST (UK) »
Fog has gone, but very chilly to start with.

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implies her parents are David DALTON and Amelia

Clutching at straws here, but everything helps a bit I guess.  Could there be a chance the mother might have remarried and took the Hibbert name on?

Just who is Eliza HIBBERT?  if she is Eliza DALTON, why the different name?

Pandora's Box

Name : DALTON Amelia

Source : Early Auckland Marriages from 1848 Vol 1 Part 1 NZ
Fencible Society - Shirley Kendall
Additional Info : FICHE 1 Page 14

Worth checking out?

BTW during my searching I have found that the name Rolton, has been transcribed as Ralton and Polton.

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Re: Eliza Hibbert/Rolton/Green Auckland NZ c 1836 - 1919
« Reply #11 on: Monday 27 April 20 03:21 BST (UK) »
The “passenger list” I linked to earlier suggests Amelia may have remarried someone Harris.
But yes, I’ll look into that too.
Developing a list now!

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Re: Eliza Hibbert/Rolton/Green Auckland NZ c 1836 - 1919
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 01 July 20 04:03 BST (UK) »
Eliza Hibbert's mother was Mary Ann BUT she had numerous husbands David Dalton being the last.
In 1841 census she is with Mary Ann ,and her husband Thomas Kennington, using the name Eliza Hibbert/Herbert (hard to read).
In 1842 Mary Ann marries David Dalton.

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Re: Eliza Hibbert/Rolton/Green Auckland NZ c 1836 - 1919
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 01 July 20 05:00 BST (UK) »
Thank you Janette, and for your PM.

I confess I haven’t looked at the FB group yet because I use FB so infrequently (ie never) it locked me out!  So while I was waiting for the requisite number of days to pass I moved to another branch, as you do  ;D.

I had seen that census though.
I think it must be that she was Eliza HIBBERT, but travelled as DALTON, then married as HIBBERT.


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Re: Eliza Hibbert/Rolton/Green Auckland NZ c 1836 - 1919
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 01 July 20 07:21 BST (UK) »
On the Minerva

DALTON   David         Amelia HARRIS   MIN   41st Foot

Dalton, David                      CHLS ENG > 1847 Howick > Mercury Bay - 1858 Howick
Dalton, Amelia (Harris)       1790      ENG - 1875 Howick (remarried?)
Dalton, Henry                 1843
Dalton, Amelia
Dalton, Eliza

Harris was Mary Ann's maiden name,there is an 1847 death for a Mary Ann Dalton in Kent.Did her mother Amelia come to NZ with David to help look after the 2 grandchildren Henry and Eliza?

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Re: Eliza Hibbert/Rolton/Green Auckland NZ c 1836 - 1919
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 01 July 20 07:37 BST (UK) »
Well, that’s a thought!
I don’t think any of the “other”  trees have come up with that theory.

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Re: Eliza Hibbert/Rolton/Green Auckland NZ c 1836 - 1919
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 02 July 20 06:11 BST (UK) »
Hi
Eliza's name at birth was Hibbert and she was born 1836 (from memory). 
Eliza's parents were William and Mary Ann Hibbert (nee Harris).  Mary married several times(Leggett and Kennington - found Kennington marriage but not Leggett marriage). 
The 1841 Census shows Mary married to Thomas Kennington and daughter Eliza Herbert/Hibbert. the 184 Census also shows David Dalton only with his daughter Amelia.  Mary Kennington (nee Harris) eventually married David Dalton in 1842.  David was a widower with a daughter Amelia.  Mary was a widow with a daughter Eliza.  David and Mary had a son, Henry, in 1843.  The family came to NZ as David was a Fencible.  They came on the Minerva in 1847.  Eliza is listed as Eliza Dalton, however she never used that name.  Mary is supposedly Amelia - there is nothing to support that name change so not sure where that information comes from. There is also some Fencible record out there that shows Amelia was born in 1790 and died in 1875.  The Amelia Dalton who died in 1875 in NZ was not Mary Dalton - she was too old and came from a different family.

You are correct in that she married George Henry Rolton.  She is shown on that record as Eliza Hibbert which was her name.
Yes they did have a a colourful marriage.
They both went on to marry again (committing bigamy) and both listed the status as Widower/Widow on their next marriage certificate.

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Re: Eliza Hibbert/Rolton/Green Auckland NZ c 1836 - 1919
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 02 July 20 06:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that.

My interest is really George Henry Rolton, (Who I am fairly confident is the brother of my OH’s GG grandmother,) but I wanted to “tidy her up”, and She was so confusing.

I think that  last means I now have her sorted.

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Eliza Dalton, however she never used that name

Which doesn’t really match that obituary which says she was the daughter of Drum-Major and Mrs DALTON

Thank you all. I will mark this as complete,