Confirming a marriage 1859 Help needed

[davidwgrobinson]

Hi,

 I'm trying to sort out an early marriage for Isaac Robinson.  So far I have the following information.

 Born 1838 in Middle Rasen (Lincstothepast website confirms baptism)

 in 1859 Married either Maria Firth  or Ann Lusby (Civil Registration Marriage Index)

 in 1861 Lived in Earswick with wife Ann M Robinson and daughter Mary A Robinson both supposedly born in Middle Rasen. (1861 Census)

 in 1871 he's back in Middle Rasen, without wife and daughter, and I have all the information after this date.

 My main problem is -

 The 1861 census seems to suggest that he married Ann Lusby, but I can't confirm an Ann Lusby born in Middle Rasen in that time, there is an Ann Lusby born in Tealby which most people seem to think is the one.  Recently however someone else has proven her not be correct, with her confirmed on a 1861 Census elsewhere.

 I have also only found one Mary A Robinson born in 1860 (England and Wales Births) in the Caistor area (Middle Rasens general area).  She has a father called Robinson and a mother called Firth.

 Which suggests that he fathered a child with Maria Firth. 

 I so far haven't found baptism records for Ann Lusby, Maria Firth or Mary Ann Robinson although I have only checked Middle Rasen's records, I still have to go through others on the Lincstothepast website.

 I'm struggling to find a Maria Firth at all.

 I can't find a church record of the marriage, but I think I'll need to visit the churches for that or the central Lincs record office.

 If anyone can advise on sites to look from here then I would be most grateful.

 David

[CaroleW]

Benjamin Vickers is the other male name on the same page and 1861 shows him with wife Ann.  Son William aged 11 also on 1861 entry

1851 shows him with a wife Hannah - marriage 1845 to Hannah Brumpton - son william aged 1 on entry.

William's birth reg shows mmn Brumpton

Death of Hannah Vickers aged 40 in 1858 Caistor

Benjamin may have married Ann Firth

[Dundee]

....... in the Caistor area (Middle Rasens general area).....

Caistor is the registration district, not the 'general area'.

With the information you already have perhaps you are looking for an Ann Maria FIRTH.

This may be her as FRITH:

FRITH, ANN  MARIA
Mother's maiden surname: ROWSON     
GRO Reference: 1838  S Quarter in OF THE LOUTH UNION  Volume 14  Page 414

This girl (born Ludford which is in the reg. district of Louth) is probably living with her grandparents (grandmother and step grandfather) John and Mary TINDAL in Middle Rasen in 1841.  John TINDAL married Mary ROWSON in 1818.

Ann's parents are probably Robert FIRTH and Ann ROWSON who married in 1832.

1841 census

Class: HO107; Piece: 639; Book: 25; Civil Parish: Ludford Magna; County: Lincolnshire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 7; Page: 9

You need Isaac ROBINSON's marriage cert to confirm who he married.

Debra 

[Dundee]

Benjamin may have married Ann Firth

Her name on marriage was Maria FIRTH.  It looks like Benjamin's wife is calling herself Mary Ann in 1871.

Debra 

[DCB]

Stamford Mercury 2nd December 1859
On the 20th ult., at the Reform chapel, Market Raeson, Mr. Benj. Vickers to Miss Ann Lusby, both of Walesby.

There are several Rowson/Rouson trees on Ancestry with Ann, Ann Marie or Mary Ann Firth or Frith as the daughter of Robert and Ann. but no husband.

One of my ancestors was Mary Ann Firth but sometimes transcribed as Frith, partly because the dot is over the r instead of the i.

David

[DCB]

I can't find a baptism for Ann but there are some for her brothers.

The top image extract, on the left, is her brother George, baptised at Hainton on 2nd December 1832 as Frith

Two other brothers were baptised at Ludford. The middle one is John on 30th August 1835 as Frith and the other is William on 23rd May 1837 as Firth

Robert's marriage is transcribed as Firth, but he made a mark. One entry on the register could be mistaken as Frith but the other is definitely Firth.

David

[davidwgrobinson]

I would like to thank all three of you

 CaroleW, Dundee and DCB I've spent a week on this on and off, and couldn't get past the Ann M Robinson part of the census.   I only found the Mary A Birth registration last night and saw the Firth.

 I will look at all the bits you have put up, but it looks like you've pretty much sorted this part.   I'm still getting used to the people not using the same names all the time.

 And yes to Dundee, Registration District, I couldn't think of the term.

 Once again many thanks to all. 

....... in the Caistor area (Middle Rasens general area).....

Caistor is the registration district, not the 'general area'.

With the information you already have perhaps you are looking for an Ann Maria FIRTH.

This may be her as FRITH:

FRITH, ANN  MARIA
Mother's maiden surname: ROWSON     
GRO Reference: 1838  S Quarter in OF THE LOUTH UNION  Volume 14  Page 414

This girl (born Ludford which is in the reg. district of Louth) is probably living with her grandparents (grandmother and step grandfather) John and Mary TINDAL in Middle Rasen in 1841.  John TINDAL married Mary ROWSON in 1818.

Ann's parents are probably Robert FIRTH and Ann ROWSON who married in 1832.

1841 census

Class: HO107; Piece: 639; Book: 25; Civil Parish: Ludford Magna; County: Lincolnshire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 7; Page: 9

You need Isaac ROBINSON's marriage cert to confirm who he married.

Debra 

Benjamin Vickers is the other male name on the same page and 1861 shows him with wife Ann.  Son William aged 11 also on 1861 entry

1851 shows him with a wife Hannah - marriage 1845 to Hannah Brumpton - son william aged 1 on entry.

William's birth reg shows mmn Brumpton

Death of Hannah Vickers aged 40 in 1858 Caistor

Benjamin may have married Ann Firth

Stamford Mercury 2nd December 1859
On the 20th ult., at the Reform chapel, Market Raeson, Mr. Benj. Vickers to Miss Ann Lusby, both of Walesby.

There are several Rowson/Rouson trees on Ancestry with Ann, Ann Marie or Mary Ann Firth or Frith as the daughter of Robert and Ann. but no husband.

One of my ancestors was Mary Ann Firth but sometimes transcribed as Frith, partly because the dot is over the r instead of the i.

David