Arthur Martin born abt 1866

[CaroleW]

So are we looking for Arthur Martin b Leicestershire abt 1866 or Arthur Martin b Staffordshire 1869 as none of the details make any sense at the moment

[Suzy W]

Is this Arthur on 1891/1901c

1891c
Leicestershire Club, Welford Place, Leicester
Arthur Martin   Servant   Single. 1869   Stewards Clerk   Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
RG12 Piece 2524 Folio   10 Page   11

1901c
New Thanes Yacht Club, Gravesend, Kent

That is them
Yes Ladyhawk, Kate/Katherine Tew is her sister.  George Tew her father all of Leire, Leicester.
And Yes Arthur was a Steward according to the marriage.
So Annie Maria must of died before 1901?

I dismissed the marriage of Walter Bromley, as it said her father was deceased in 1903, Our Annie's father died in 1911.
Arthur Martin   Servant   M 33   Stweard domestic Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Blanche Martin   Servant   M 31   Leicester, Leicestershire
There’s also a
Kate   Tew   Servant   Single 24   Housemaid Domestic   Leire, Leicestershire
RG13 Piece 713 Folio   62 Page   22

[Ladyhawk]

Late marriage?
Marriages December quarter   1903
Walter Bromley  Leicester
Annie Tew   Leicester

Annie Tew Age   38 Single
Residence   10 Duxbury RD
Father George Tew deceased builder?
Marriage date   09 Nov 1903
Spouse Walter Bromley  single age 43 Father John Deceased
Spouse's residence   52 Frank St

[Suzy W]

Late marriage?
Marriages December quarter   1903
Walter Bromley  Leicester
Annie Tew   Leicester

Annie Tew Age   38 Single
Residence   10 Duxbury RD
Father George Tew deceased builder?
Marriage date   09 Nov 1903
Spouse Walter Bromley  single age 43 Father John Deceased
Spouse's residence   52 Frank St

Not my Annie, as her father was alive in 1911

[Suzy W]

So we can now safely say Annie died before 1901 as Arthur remarried and was living in Gravesend, Kent with new wife and sister in-law Kate Tew.

Just looking over deaths between 1897 and 1901, only one that fits at this stage is in Somerset 1898.

Thanks
Suzy W

[Ladyhawk]

So we can now safely say Annie died before 1901 as Arthur remarried and was living in Gravesend, Kent with new wife and sister in-law Kate Tew.

I did not list All the servants and boarders from 1901c

George   Friend   Boarder   Married   1835   Architect   Maidstone, Kent
Alfred   Crocker   Boarder   Single   1854   Stock Dealer   London, Middlesex
Alfred S   Marrott   Boarder   Married   1876   Brewer   Hastings, Sussex
Arthur   Martin   Servant   Married.     1868 Steward Domestic Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Blanche   Martin   Servant   Married   1870   Cook Housekeeper Domestic   Leicester
Arthur H   Clarke   Servant   Single   1878   Waiter Domestic   Nottingham
Richard   Griffin   Servant   Single   M1881   Porter Domestic   Southwark, Surrey
Jabez   Kemp   Servant   Single   1887   Pantry Boy Domestic   March, Cambridgeshire
Kate   Tew   Servant   Single   1877   Housemaid Domestic   Leire, Leicestershire
Tenurza   Culver   Servant   Single   1871   Kitchenmaid Domestic   Norfolk
Olive   Baker   Servant   Single   1882   Scullerymaid Domestic   Gravesend, Kent

edit to add my previous post

Is this Arthur on 1891/1901c

1891c Leicestershire Club, Welford Place, Leicester
Arthur Martin   Servant   Single 1869 Stewards Clerk   Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
RG12 Piece 2524 Folio   10 Page   11

1901c New Thanes Yacht Club, Gravesend, Kent
Arthur Martin   Servant   M 33   Steward domestic Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Blanche Martin   Servant   M 31   Leicester, Leicestershire
There’s also a
Kate   Tew   Servant   Single 24   Housemaid Domestic   Leire, Leicestershire
RG13 Piece 713 Folio   62 Page   22

That is them

Kate/Katherine Tew is her sister.  George Tew her father all of Leire, Leicester.

And Yes Arthur was a Steward according to the marriage.

So Annie Maria must of died before 1901?

I dismissed the marriage of Walter Bromley, as it said her father was deceased in 1903,

Our Annie's father died in 1911.

[chempat]

Arthur was the son of John Martin born abt 1866, as it states on his marriage to Annie Maria Tew (of Leire) on the 26 Aug 1897.
I just can't seem to find any census record for the couple after this date.

What census information did you have on Arthur before this date?
You have been shown a proposed birth, in Market Harborough, making him illegitimate - so that marriage information was wrong?
He is married to Blanche in 1901 and Grace in 1911 - have you found a marriage to Blanche?
Or, is Blanche not his wife, as that is not completely specified in 1901?
Have you found a death for Blanche?

[chempat]

I thought 'Hope' was a strange middle name (son for the 'wrong' Annie?).

There is this illegitimate birth in West Bromwich, just for mis-information:

Arthur Hope Martin mmn Martin   
GRO Reference: 1866  M Quarter in West Bromwich

[Annie65115]

I don't think we should assume that Annie had died. The marriage may simply have broken down; unless we can identify an obvious burial, it could be that Annie was still around, and maybe using another name.

Neither can we assume that all details on a marr cert are 100% accurate; my grannie declared her estranged father dead when she married, despite the fact that he stayed living within a couple of miles of her home, and carrying on a business in the family name, for the next 16 years!!

I can't find any marriages that fit between Arthur and Blanche, and only 1 possible between Arthur Martin and Grace Emmeline Hawkins in1904 in Kings Norton.This may not be the right Arthur Martin of course!