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Re: Arthur Martin born abt 1866
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 02 May 20 14:31 BST (UK) »

I can't find any marriages that fit between Arthur and Blanche,

and only 1 possible between Arthur Martin and Grace Emmeline Hawkins in1904 in Kings Norton.
This may not be the right Arthur Martin of course!

1904 marriage was suggested at reply 14 and reply 15 birth reg of their dau Enid (Grace Enid) mmn Hawkins posted.
M/C would be needed to confirm his father's name and if he's noted as widowed


Arthur was the son of John Martin born abt 1866, as it states on his marriage to Annie Maria Tew (of Leire) on the 26 Aug 1897.


Same as you cannot find an Arthur Martin / Blanche ? marriage between 1897 - 1904  ??? (assuming 1904 marriage is the correct Arthur Martin)

Is it possible that Blanche Martin born c1870 Leicester from 1901 census is actually Annie Maria Martin born c1869 Leire Leicester and for some reason was using a different Christian name  ???

So we can now safely say Annie died before 1901 as Arthur remarried and was living in Gravesend, Kent with new wife and sister in-law Kate Tew.

Just looking over deaths between 1897 and 1901, only one that fits at this stage is in Somerset 1898.

I don't think we should assume that Annie had died. The marriage may simply have broken down; unless we can identify an obvious burial, it could be that Annie was still around, and maybe using another name.

If he's not married to Blanche  a few other possibilities

Dec 1902    Paddington    1a   35
Martin    Annie Maria    age 31 (born c1871)   

Mar 1903   Birmingham    6d   28
Martin    Annie Maria    age 33 ( born 1870)

A snippet of m/c to compare signatures of any other marriages found on line
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Re: Arthur Martin born abt 1866
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 02 May 20 16:04 BST (UK) »
some info just in case this does relate to your Arthur Martin

Grace Emmeline MARTIN of Belle Vue Private Hotel Waterloo Square Bognor Regis Sussex
(wife of Arthur Martin) died 12 July 1935
Probate Lewes 7 September to Grace Enid Martin Spinster and H S Chamberlain solicitor
Effects £7072 8s 2d.

Picture of Hotel
https://citikey.uk/display/the-belle-vue-hotel-0K859


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Re: Arthur Martin born abt 1866
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 02 May 20 18:03 BST (UK) »
Grace Enid Martin is in a private tree on Ancestry.  Worth trying to contact the tree owner?

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Re: Arthur Martin born abt 1866
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 02 May 20 21:49 BST (UK) »
Annie Tew's marriage to George Bromley 1903 at St Barnabas, states Spinster, age 38, so born abt 1865.
Her signature below.
TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

And far too many to add


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Re: Arthur Martin born abt 1866
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 02 May 20 22:18 BST (UK) »
1901 census so two years before marriage to Walter Bromley

George   Tew   Head   Widower   Male   63   1838   Joiner   Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
Annie   Bromley   Daughter   Married   Female   35   1866   Housekeeper   Rugby, Warwickshire, England
Raymond   Bromley   Grand Son   Single   Male   1   1900   -   Leicestershire, England

Not my George Tew as he lived in Leire. 1901
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Village, Leire, Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England

George   Tew   Head Widower Male 63   1838   General Laborer Attlebow, Warwickshire   


Then 1911 census for this Annie and her husband Walter Bromley
Walter   Bromley   Head   Married   Male   48   1863   Colliery Weighman Under Ground   Radcliffe Lancashire
Annie   Bromley   Wife   Married   Female   45   1866   -   Rugby Werncheshire
Raymond   Bromley   Son   Single   Male   11   1900   -   Leicester Leicestershire
Eccleston Grange Lodge, Eccleston, Lancashire, England

And 1939 the Bromleys
Raymond H   Bromley   03 Mar 1900   Male   Railway Shorter   Divorced   1   1
John B   Bromley   22 Apr 1932   Male   At School   Single   1   2
Annie   Bromley   24 Jun 1864   Female   Invalid   Widowed   1   3

So back to drawing board with Annie and Arthur Martin

Suzy W
TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

And far too many to add

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Re: Arthur Martin born abt 1866
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 03 May 20 01:38 BST (UK) »
Just found this, they may of came to New Zealand.  Names under Mr and Mrs A Martin.
I tried searching for births for the couple but nothing coming up at this point.  Will look at NZ rolls to see if there is a Arthur Martin.

Name:   
A Martin

Event Type:   
Immigration
Event Date:   
18 Dec 1900
 •
Event Place:   
Wellington, New Zealand
 •
Event Place (Original):   
Wellington, New Zealand
Age:   
31
Occupation:   
Traveller
Birth Year (Estimated):   
1869
Departure Place:   
London
 •
Departure Port:   
London
Arrival Port:   
Wellington (other ports also listed)
Ship Name:   
Waiwera
TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

And far too many to add