help please with Birth Certificate 1846 Chapeltown

[kit54]

Hi,
Please can anyone help. I've got a Birth Certificate for my Ancestor in 1846 in Chapeltown, but I cannot understand part of it. Please, is there anyone with local knowledge who could shed some light on this?
It's re the Column that states: When and Where Born. It says Thirteenth September 1846, and then
5. PM  or possibly 5. Pill  Chapeltown. It's the 5. PM  or possibly 5. Pill that I don't understand. Is this an abode, or is it that she was born at 5 pm?
I'd appreciate any help,
Thanks,
Kit

[Crumblie]

The time always says AM or PM so I think it is safe to say it is the time rather than an abode.

[kit54]

Thanks for your reply Crumblie - I've puzzled over this for a while - it's just that I've never seen a Birth Certificate before stating the time of birth, (especially back in this era), whereas I have seen "Pill" as an abode.
(I've tried to attach a copy of the certificate, but can't find a way of doing this; I presume that it would be against copyright anyway).
Kit

[medpat]

Time is only on English birth certs if twins were born

[medpat]

Could it be she was born in Pilley - look where it is

[arthurk]

In the early years of civil registration in England, you do occasionally see a time of birth given, even though it's not required, and not twins.

[kit54]

Hi Medpat and arthurk,
Thanks for your replies. I really don't think it states Pilley, as there is no "ey" after 5. PM or 5. Pill and it then states that she was born in Chapeltown. I just wondered, if it was an abode, that someone with  local knowledge might recognize it. The other alternative is that it's got to be the time!
Thanks very much,
Kit

[KGarrad]

Thanks for your reply Crumblie - I've puzzled over this for a while - it's just that I've never seen a Birth Certificate before stating the time of birth, (especially back in this era), whereas I have seen "Pill" as an abode.
(I've tried to attach a copy of the certificate, but can't find a way of doing this; I presume that it would be against copyright anyway).
Kit

You can't add attachments to any RootsChat board that ends with ". . . . Lookup Requests".
In any case, RootsChat guidelines are that you attach a snippet of the certificate, and not the whole thing.

[Bookbox]

In the early years of civil registration in England, you do occasionally see a time of birth given, even though it's not required, and not twins.

Definitely agree with this. In my experience it's not that unusual in the 1840s. I've seen quite a number of them.