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Re: Johanna Stanley / Jane Ada Gray / John William Gray - Dubbo area NSW
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 May 20 00:15 BST (UK) »
The first time I can see Alfred is in 1934 in Mareeba, and then he is in Rockhampton.

Ada is with Henry LOCKYER up to 1916 in Longreach and in 1919 she is in Rockhampton and he is in Longreach.  She is then with Thomas HEALEY from 1925 to 1930 in Herberton, then with William CUMMINGS from 1935 in Herberton, and she died in 1945.

I doubt that Alfred was a LOCKYER and that is why she took him with her.  He was born three years before they married.  Henry states that there were only two children from the marriage.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/55329906

Eric wasn't their son.

Birth

Eric Norris HEALY
Birth date: 27/02/1917
Mother's name: Mary Anne Sharkey NORRIS
Father/parent's name:  Eric NORRIS
1917/C/33

Death

Eric Norris HEALY
Death Date:    30 Oct 1960
Father's name:    Eric NORRIS
Mother's name:    Mary Anne SHARKEY
Registration Year:    1960
Registration Place:    Queensland
Registration Number:    005880
Page Number:    1237

Eric enlisted in WW2 and gave Thomas as his NOK and his POW card names Thomas and Ada as his parents.

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx

The recording of the names on Eric's birth registration are unusual and you would need to see the cert to know what was going on.  Ancestry also have this birth indexed but this version doesn't appear in the Qld BDM registry.

Name:    Eric Clifford NORRIS
Birth Date:    27 Feb 1917
Registration Year:    1917
Registration Place:    Queensland, Australia
Father:    Eric NORRIS
Mother:    Mary Anne SHARKEY
Registration Number:  33

There may have been alterations to the registration.

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Re: Johanna Stanley / Jane Ada Gray / John William Gray - Dubbo area NSW
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 May 20 02:44 BST (UK) »
I wonder if, when Qld BDM were changing over to EDP or the more recent updates to more modern databases if they had problems with software and apparent duplications, I am aware that NSW BDM had significant practical failings with EDP introduction and the cards physically falling ....  I mention the following bdm online index has same first given name, and in same 'quarter' of 1917:

Queensland bdm
Eric Clifford CHERRY, born 14 January 1917
I think reference C3221
https://www.ryersonindex.org/
Ryerson index has funeral notice for Mr Cherry indexed as Courier Mail, 19 March 1997, aged 80.

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Re: Johanna Stanley / Jane Ada Gray / John William Gray - Dubbo area NSW
« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 May 20 07:36 BST (UK) »
Mary Anne SHARKEY married Eric NORRIS  10 October 1916.  Qld bdm #C2743

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Re: Johanna Stanley / Jane Ada Gray / John William Gray - Dubbo area NSW
« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 May 20 08:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much everyone, this is starting to piece together now.  i can't believe how much we have found out in just a few days.

I have found eight possible siblings of Ada Jane Gray born in Dubbo NSW (and at Bundaleer Station, Qld).  I also found a death certificate of an infant brother of hers, James, which states "where born and how long in the Australiasian Colonies or States", "Narrau, NSWales, Native". I think this could explain why it has been difficult to get details in the past. 

With Ada deserting Henry, this explains why the 2 boys were put into an orphanage, and then later collected by their Aunties.  I also know that Alfred Easter Lockyer, turned up one day at Gordon Lockyer's house and stayed for a few days to visit, his son was told that he was not his dad's brother, but he remembers that they acted like they were and it was like a big family reunion.  He was born Alfred Easter Gray "illigitimate" and was adopted by Henry Lockyer when they married.  That would be why Ada took him with her.

I will have to try Ada's parent's now - they have been a bit more difficult.

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Re: Johanna Stanley / Jane Ada Gray / John William Gray - Dubbo area NSW
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 24 March 21 10:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

So after a few months of further research and comparing notes with other family researchers, we have pieced together a lot of the Healy part of the family and have copies of lots of notices etc.

However, one part I can't find out, is the birth details of Francis John Thomas Healy (or Healey).  I have found a Francis John Healey from a family that lives at Eden Monaro (which is where our Ada's father came from - see attachments) but can find nothing else on a birth for him in either Qld or NSW, only the death details which state Ada and Thomas Healy were the parents (which may not have been correct as their other child was not theirs but raised by them).  ???

Any suggestions on birth details for this child (he died at 10 years old in tragic shooting incident at Stannery Hills).



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Re: Johanna Stanley / Jane Ada Gray / John William Gray - Dubbo area NSW
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 24 July 21 22:56 BST (UK) »
Hi. I am Eric Healy's grandson. My father is Russell Healy. My grandfather died when my father was 2 years old. So my dad never knew his father. One thing I was told recently was that Healy might not be our own natural surname and I'm trying to piece things together and would be grateful for any help given. Please contact me at (*) if you would like to do so.



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Re: Johanna Stanley / Jane Ada Gray / John William Gray - Dubbo area NSW
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 28 September 21 19:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Jamie Healy - these posts are on the right track and as such, you're a cousin of mine via the Norris side.  I live in Florida USA but am from Melbourne Australia and I've spent a lifetime researching the Norris family from Bendigo Victoria back to the United States and before then to the UK.  The info previously posted here is correct but a few corrections...

Birth

Eric Norris HEALY - Real birth name was Eric Clifford Norris born Longreach, Queensland, Australia. 
Birth date: 27/02/1917
Mother's name: Mary Anne Sharkey NORRIS
Father/parent's name:  Eric NORRIS
1917/C/33

Death

Eric Norris HEALY
Death Date:    30 Oct 1960
Father's name:    Eric NORRIS born 1895 Heathcote, Victoria, Australia
Mother's name:    Mary Anne SHARKEY born 1898 Lanarkshire, Scotland
Registration Year:    1960
Registration Place:    Queensland
Registration Number:    005880
Page Number:    1237

Eric Norris (a motor mechanic) and Mary Anne SHARKEY married Oct 10 1916 Longreach, Queensland, Australia and their son Eric Clifford Norris was born four months later Feb 27 1917. 

Both Eric and Mary were minors under law at the time of their marriage.  Eric was 20 and Mary was 19 years old and Judge had to approve their marriage at that time - Mary was 5 months pregnant.  There was lots controversy in the Norris family at the time and the unwed pregnancy was not approved by the parents.  My family used to have letters in our family tree box when I was kid speaking of the pregnancy and the kerfuffle that went along with it at that time and I think Eric's parents disowned him or vis versa.  The letters are currently in possession of a brother who refuses to share anything with family right now.

Eric Sr's parents were Alfred George Norris b1862 dApr 29 1924 and Emma Mary Wilson May b1860 dDec 14 1926 both were born in Heathcote, Victoria, Australia. 

Alfred's mum and dad were Jeremiah Norris b1810 in Pennsylvania USA and dOct 7 1889 Caledonia Gully, Heathcote, Victoria, Australia.  Elizabeth Casey bMar 15 1829 Queenstown, Youghal County Cork, Ireland dSep 9 1909 Frankston, Victoria, Australia and are my ggg grandparents.  Jeremiah was a descendant of enslaved africans as our gggg grandparents were slave holders and slaves on both of those lines.  Our Norris DNA has led me to every corner of the globe.

Eric Clifford Norris married Joyce Isabel McGachie on May 10 1946 at Longreach, Queensland, Australia a few weeks later he changed his name by Deed Poll on Jun 14 1946 to Eric Norris Healy.

Eric Healy's father was Eric Norris Sr. born in 1895 he was married twice first to Mary Anne SHARKEY married Oct 10 1916 and then Stella Dulcie Edith Coates on Apr 18 1929 Bendigo, Victoria, Australia.  He divorced Stella Apr 10 1940 Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Stella was b1907 Long Gully, Bendigo, Victoria, Australia dMay 7 1983.  Stella was his 1st cousin 1x removed (also within our same Norris family in Bendigo).

Before that divorce from Stella, Eric Norris Sr. changed his name to William Evans.  I don't know why?  I found that in his divorce papers. 

I have quite a bit of family info on my site https://www.myheritage.com/site-437279601/summers-kindred-spirits-family-tree or via Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/178218727/family?cfpid=192317960011

You can write to me there or via the private chat here and send me your email address.   

Regards,

Cous David Summers