Southampton - Where are these places?

[Tsu]

I have a birth certificate from 1866.  The child was born at 1 Dorset Terrace, Southampton and the mother's residence is given as 12 Saint Mary's Place, Southampton.

I can't find either of these places on any maps.

The mother was on her own and the child illegitimate. 

Can anyone help me please?

[Little Nell]

St Mary's Place is shown on this map here:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/105987331

to the east of the cricket ground called Hoglands

Dorset Terrace has so far eluded me.

Nell

[janan]

Dorset Terrace apparently used to be on west side of Waterhouse Lane near the north end in Millbrook. Found it on this useful site

sotonopedia.wikidot.com/page-browse:dorset-place-and-dorset-terrace

Jan

[Tsu]

Thank you!

It's a mystery why she was in Southampton at all.  She was born and lived in Halstead in Essex and as far as I know knew nobody in Hampshire.

Her son's birth certificate says 'dependent on parents' under the mother's name.  Father's name is blank.
I was hoping that I could see who lived in these places in the 1861 and 1871 census returns and it might give me a clue.

[Milliepede]

How old was the mother at the time?  It could be she was in service in that area and got into trouble.

[Tsu]

The mother was Mary Smoothy born in Halstead in 1837.  She came from quite a good family (farmers) and in 1861 was a governess living with her aunt on her aunt's farm in Halstead.  Her sister married well and in her father's will (he died prematurely in 1841) she was left a lot of money that I don't think she ever saw.

Certainly, by 1871 she was living in Kent as s dyer and seems to have been more or less on her uppers.  She assumed a married name (no husband was ever in evidence) but it was just her and her son.  She died, an alcoholic in 1883 in the workhouse.

The son (born Thomas Humphrey Smoothy) was my late husband's great grandfather and was known as Thomas Humphrey England (England being the name Mary assumed after his birth).
He went to New Zealand shortly after Mary's death.

[Tsu]

So I'm looking at the Alners who lived at 12 St. Mary's Place in 1861, 1871 and 1881.

My son has a DNA match with an Ancestry tree that has Alners in it.  Still doesn't explain what Mary was doing in Southampton.

[Milliepede]

Is any occupation given for the mother on the birth certificate?  Sometimes it says domestic servant or similar. 

[Milliepede]

So I'm looking at the Alners who lived at 12 St. Mary's Place in 1861, 1871 and 1881.

1871 has an Elizabeth Abbinett age 63 at 12 St Marys Place doesn't it?

She is on her own - living derived from house property

Maybe Mary was her companion for a time.