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« on: Sunday 17 May 20 17:46 BST (UK) »
Hi
I have a person who was mentioned in a marriage certificate as being a United Presbyterian Minister.
Is there any way I can find more information about this. When and where he was ordained and possibly where he served as a minister. His name was James Miller and I have a birth year of 1800. His son Henry was born in Bristol so there are links to the SW of England, but that is all I have.
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Re: United Presbyterian Minister
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 May 20 17:48 BST (UK) »
Have you found him on any census entry showing his birthplace?

Who did he marry - where and when

When was Henry born?  There is an 1851 entry for Henry Miller 28 and George Miller 23 - both carpenters and both b Bristol
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Re: United Presbyterian Minister
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 May 20 18:43 BST (UK) »
Carole,
James married a Charlotte Tapley/ Taplie and Henry was born around 1832 in Bristol. Henry's marriage cert states clearly his dad was a U P minister.
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 May 20 19:09 BST (UK) »
Have you found Henry on the 1841 census? 
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Re: United Presbyterian Minister
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 May 20 19:56 BST (UK) »
Carole,
Cannot find Henry in 1841 census, but on Henry's death cert, James is entered as a soldier, so perhaps an army Chaplain at some point. I would have thought that there would be a list of ordained ministers somewhere. James and Charlotte are potentially still alive in 1860, when Henry got married as they are not marked "deceased" on the certificate.
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 May 20 20:57 BST (UK) »
The United Presbyterian Church (1847–1900) was a Scottish Presbyterian denomination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Presbyterian_Church_(Scotland)
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 May 20 21:48 BST (UK) »
Although it was Scottish Presbyterian denomination they had churches in England.
The New Building of the The United Presbyterian Church , St. James's Parade, Bristol.  was opened for Public Worship On Wednesday September 7th 1859. Western Daily Press - Bristol.

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 May 20 22:02 BST (UK) »
There must be a list of ministers somewhere along the lines of those for C of E clergy.

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 May 20 00:40 BST (UK) »
How do you know James married Charlotte Tapley? 

Did Henry marry Agnes Graham in Ayrshire in 1860?  Only Scottish marriage/death certs have both parents names and mothers maiden name

If not - who did he marry?  There is an 1871 for a Henry Miller b 1831 Bristol - wife Margaret - no children - living in Chelsea

If James & Charlotte were still alive - have you found them on the 1851 census?  Where is Henry in 1851?



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