Ure Beatrice Ward, left Australia 1922 for London

[sparrett]

Mr and Mrs Edward Steven WARD also had a daughter whose given name was significant.

Do you have her details?

Sue

[jonw65]

Alfred Ward
Birth 4 Dec 1887
Baptism 4 April 1888
St Luke Victoria  Docks
Parents Charles Samuel + Mary Ann

Do check original if possible.
Any birth reg would be in Dec qtr 87 or March qtr 88, but not found anything

[jonw65]

Alfred Ward, 9(!), with his Maryon grandparents in 1891, in Highbury, Islington
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3BXD-TZM

Also there is sister Ellen, 3. It appears the ages of Alfred and Ellen are the wrong way round.

1901, he is still with the grandparents.
Alfred Ward, 13, born Tottenham
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X98R-NXX

Sisters Nellie, 19 (correct age), and Florry, 17, also there.

Ties in with a birth for Alfred in Dec 1887.

[sparrett]

I am proposing there was an informal adoption arrangement made in England.

Ure having given birth to the child Steven offered him for adoption to his father, Alfred/Edward WARD and a woman who was his partner.

Because of the bigamy in both situations and the need to avoid official scrutiny,the woman travelled using the name of the child's mother, Ure WARD.

Something did not work out in Australia and the partnership was in some way dicontinued.

In 1925, Edward claiming he was a widower, married Victoria Mabel PERFREMENT and Steven was brought up with her as his 'mother'.

Sue

[jonw65]

He also sent Stephen Claude Ward birth cert - 23 Mar 1920, Queen Charlotte Hospital, St Marylebone, Father Alfred Ward, Mother Ure Beatrice Ward, formerly Holden.

Was Ure the informant? Any other address given on cert?

[wivenhoe]

NSW BDM marriage
11494/1945 WARD Steven Claude    marr.   BEEHAG Hilda Eileen   @ Rockdale

What details does Steven give for himself and both his parents.

"Stephen Claude Ward birth cert - 23 Mar 1920, Queen Charlotte Hospital, St Marylebone, Father Alfred Ward, Mother Ure Beatrice Ward, formerly Holden."

Who is the informant for this birth record?

[jonw65]

Post it on both threads!

In 1921 electoral registers she is living alone, at 31, Chalton Street, under the name of Hubbard. 1922 - 1925 electoral registers she is living with second husband at 77, Chalton Street, under the name of Hubbard.
Modified: 1921 record is Ure Beatrice Hubbard, Provision dealer London PO Directory, living at 38, Chalton Street.

1921 electoral register has Ernest Hubbard at 33 Chalton Street, South-East St. Pancras.
Probably Ure wasn't eligible when it was compiled.
Charles + Ann Esther Holden were at number 31 Chalton Street.  Are they relations?
Majm has given 1922, 1923 earlier.

1919, 1920 PO London Directories have Mrs. Susan Hubbard, provision dealer, at 33 Chalton street, Somers town
1921 it has altered/corrected to Mrs. Ure Beatrice Hubbard at 33 Chalton street
1922 Not listed

Incidentally, Mrs. Ann Esther Holden at 31 is a tobacconist.

And, OK, Susan Hubbard was Ernest's mother. Died in 1919, age 73. Left a will
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=hubbard&yearOfDeath=1919&page=2#calendar

[sugarfizzle]

The WW2 records linked to give Edward Steven Alfred Ward's dob as 29 Dec 1896. As he admitted in the newspaper report to dying his hair brown to appear younger, this would appear to be a lie, one of many.

There is also a letter from S C Ward, 9, York Close, Yowie Bay, 2228, NSW, dated 6 Dec 1982 regarding his father's medals in the link provided earlier -
https://www.naa.gov.au/explore-collection

Regards Margaret

[majm]

The WW2 records linked to give Edward Steven Alfred Ward's dob as 29 Dec 1896. As he admitted in the newspaper report to dying his hair brown to appear younger, this would appear to be a lie, one of many.

There is also a letter from S C Ward, 9, York Close, Yowie Bay, 2228, NSW, dated 6 Dec 1982 regarding his father's medals in the link provided earlier -
https://www.naa.gov.au/explore-collection

Regards Margaret

There is nothing in that WWII file to confirm that ESA WARD and Alfred WARD are one and the same person. The letter from Steven is  about the WWII service and the official reply to that letter is also on that file.... Pages 23 and 22.  Steven's letter was written more than 11 years after his father's death.

ADD

Steven's letter says 'on behalf of my father' and at least in NSW that expression means you are doing something that you have been expressly asked to do,   Was the medal issued ...

JM

.......

The 'UK Royal Air Force Airmen Records' INDEX at Ancestry has the following info about Alfred WARD :
Birthdate 29 December 1888,  born Highbury, London N,  Middlesex, England.   Service Date 19 March 1915,  Service number 203593,  Next of Kin  Nellie VARNEY,  sister. 

ADD
^{Air Force Number} 203593
^Name WARD, A   
^{R.N.A.S.  or R.F.C. Trade Classification} Gunlayer   
^{Remustered to Air Force Trade Classification} Aerial Gunner   
^{R.N.A.S. Rating or R.F.C. Rank or Appointment} P.O. 
^{New Rank in Air Force} Sergeant   
^{Date of Joining} 1/8/16   
^{Normal rate Air Force Pay} 3s 3d   
^{Terms of Enlistment} D.W.

JM