St. Paul's Shireshead cemetery records

[lynda49]

I visited Garstang and Clitheroe in October and visited the grave of my great grandmother, Isabella Barnes Hulland.  Her daughter Janet Ridge (died 1970) and Janet's daughter Winnifred are also buried there.  My cousins recently put up the gravestone.  We found a jar with a note in it saying that this was in fact the grave of the grandmother of John Edward Pedder.  I could find no information in the Lancashire Archives in Preston and requests for information to St. James Shireshead (who now have the St. Paul's records) have produced no results.  Can any help with this family mystery?

[CaroleW]

Welcome to Rootschat

My cousins recently put up the gravestone.

To install a gravestone requires proof of ownership of the grave so your cousins presumably had the deeds to the grave.  They would have had to have planning permission & the stonemasons who carried out the work would have had to confirm ownership etc.

Isabella died 1898 so it's an old grave.   

You will have the grave number so can make enquiries re occupancy when the offices are fully open after the present lockdown.

As you have no name for "John Edward Pedders grandmother" there is no easy way of checking

[Barbara.H]

Welcome to Rootschat

The Lancaster and District Family History Group did the memorial inscriptions for St Pauls Shireshead, so it might be worth contacting them to relate your experience of this note in a jar by your family gravestone. They may have  information about John Edward Pedder's family, if there is reason to doubt whose grave is where in the churchyard
http://www.lfhg.org/page5/index.html

  Barbara

[lynda49]

Thanks for the information.  John Edward Pedder's grandmother was Grace Richardson.  She was my great grandfather John Hulland's second wife but it seems she went by the last name of Richardson.

[lynda49]

I will check the Lancaster History Group.  Thanks.

[CaroleW]

Deaths March qtr 1925   
HULLAND    Grace    51    Garstang    8e   1015

[lynda49]

Thanks again everyone.  Very helpful.

[CaroleW]

Just for info only

That marriage was 1910 but both the full GRO index & freebmd show him as Holland. 

1911 he is Holland - in his own writing on the original image

He died in 1934 as Holland. 

[lynda49]

Thanks Carol.  Yes this Holland/Hulland business is a family thing.  My ancestors, back to the 1700's, were Hullands.  Great granddfather John was a Hulland by birth and through much of his early life. Some of his children took the Hulland name, others like my grandfather were Holland.  Grandpa said at one time that everyone spelled it Holland so he for one just went with it.  But a search of parish records for the Garstang, Forton area show Hollands but no Hullands in the 1500's.  My great uncle Peter (killed in Belgium in WW1) was a Hulland and his son Peter remained firmly so as does his son Iain.  Another mystery.