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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 02 June 20 22:17 BST (UK) »
Not sure if you have them on censuses or not

1851c Orange Street, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
Catharine   Cohen   Head   Widow 1770   Proprietor Of Houses   London, Middlesex, England
Matilda   Cohen   Daughter   Unmarried   1805   Fundholder   Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales
Charlotte   Cohen   Daughter   Unmarried   1815   Fundholder   Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales
Keziah   Matthews   Servant   Unmarried   1832   Servant   Coychurch, Glamorgan, Wales

Catherine, Matilda & Charlotte Cohen at that address in 1841 and just  Catherine & Matilda Cohen there in 1861 with a servant , house no 17 Orange Street
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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 02 June 20 22:23 BST (UK) »
1871 Matilda is in Oystermouth Glamorganshire aged 66 with a servant.

1871 Charlotte age 50 has Douglas age 64 living with her at 20 Hanover Square Swansea.

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 02 June 20 23:17 BST (UK) »
Cool, thanks so much.

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 15:33 BST (UK) »
This paper gives an idea of why Jewish people settled in South Wales and you can search within the document for "swansea" or meybe actual names https://research.bangor.ac.uk/portal/files/20579001/null

In the Birmingham Journal 26 November 1836, p. 4 there is a notice of dissolved partnership for Reuben Zelig Cohen and Henry Philip Mosely, Neath, watchmakers.

The dissolution is also listed in Perry's Bankrupt Gazette 26 November 1836, p.8 but it also sattes that they were watchmakers and silversmiths, partnesrhip was dissolved oin Nov 18th at Neath and it staes "Debts by Cohen"

Not sure if this Charlotte Mozely is of the same family https://synagoguescribes.com/blog/person-details/?value=9365 you can also click on her spuse's name to bring up his details

Samuel Philip Cohen seems to have been baptised as an adult, in the Parish Church (St Thomas Anglican) in Neath on Aug 18th 1823. Entry says he is an adult brought up in the Jewish religion, born July 29th 1797, son of Jacob and Catherine Cohen. His address at time was "Neath" and he was a Jeweller.

He married on the same day according to the Marriage reg for the church and there was a notice in the Cambrian newspaper
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3325485/3325488/9/cohen%20howell


The Cambrian 23rd Jun 1827, p2 top of col 3 (Heded - "To Capitalists")  Catherine Cohen advertises her Pawnbroking business for sale

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3326475/3326477/5/cohen%20howell
In a an Annual report published in The Cambrian 26 Feb 1820, p.3 (see 2nd column of list of subscribers): For year ending 1919, Jacob Cohen was listed as s subscriber to the Swansea Infirmary (subscribed £1 1s  0d) https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3324575/3324578/4/cohen%20howell

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3325095/3325098/8/cohen%20howell
The Cambrian 2nd March 1822, p.3 6th Paragraph (see under"Caution" - relates to Samuel Philip Cohen)

Rosetta Mark's marriage notice in The Cambrian 22 Jun 1822, p.3 https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3325175/3325178/10/cohen%20howell

There are also adverts showing Samuel P Cohen's Various buisnesses (selling lottery tickets amongst other things) Just look for his name in the listings, including these:

1821 https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3325000/3325003/11/cohen%20neath%20jews

1822 https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3325250/3325252/4/cohen%20neath%20jews

In 1826 he is an Auctioneer
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3326325/3326328/10/cohen%20neath%20jews


The Cambrian 3rd Apr 1827, p.3, col1, mentions Samuel P Cohen respectable tradesman attending baptism of Samuel Mosley https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3326375/3326378/7/cohen%20neath%20jews


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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 15:38 BST (UK) »
Cool, thank you very much Sam.

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 21:59 BST (UK) »
Haven't found anything on Jacob Cohen, but in this article looking at the history of the Jewish community in Swansea, it says two other continental immigrants - Mr Cohen and Mr Marks joined Mr Joseph.

https://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/Community/swansea_articles/Press_Reports_Swansea_1804-1917.htm Gives links to lots of newspaper reports relating to Jewish people.

Lots of links to Swansea Jewish Community from these pages
https://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/Wales.htm
https://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/Community/swansea.htm#cemetery

https://jhasw2018.wixsite.com/news JEWISH HISTORY ASSOCIATION OF SOUTH WALES

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 22:02 BST (UK) »
Cool, thanks, Sam. Much appreciated.

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 04 June 20 15:03 BST (UK) »
Hello Leonard,

I have been watching as the facts unfold. Quite a family.

I have been focusing on Catherine, her siblings and her parents.

She also had two brothers, Abraham and Joseph. Both were named in the wills of Solomon Phillips (1816) and that of his son Mordecai (1847).

The 1816 will, as you may know, was translated from "the Hebrew written in the German Jewish Character". That statement may actually have meant that the will was in German, but written in Hebrew characters. I have examples of such texts from my own family.

Solomon Phillips was the hazan or cantor of London's Hambro Synagogue. In English language records, he is referred to as Solomon Phillips. However, his full Hebrew name was:

Mosheh Reuven also known as Zelig son of Shmuel, the Levite

Zelig was authorised by Rabbinical courts as an alias (kinui) for Reuven.

The Hambro burial register records his burial on 15th April 1816 (https://synagoguescribes.com/blog/person-details/?value=31300)

You'll see that his father is named as "Samuel HHR". I suspect that there is slight transcription error, and the text should be read from right to left. HRR is a common Hebrew acronym for ha-rav ravi, which denotes that the man was a recognised rabbi.

Corrected the acronyms above

I have not found any record of his wife's name, but she was not named in the will, so she must have died before him.

Your Reuben Zaleg Felipe was clearly named after his grandfather, so I would be very surprised if he was born before the latter's death in 1816.

Amongst British Jews, the surname Phillips was often taken from the Hebrew given name Feis, which is itself a kinui for the names Uri and Uri-Shraga.

I haven't been able to make any headway with Jacob Cohen. And as I'm sure you know, researching Cohens (and Levys - my own surname) is never easy - the Smiths of the Jewish world.

Take care, Justin

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Re: Any Information on the family Jacob and Catherine Cohen, Wales, Swansea
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 04 June 20 16:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Justin,

Wow, that's in incredible, thank you so very much. I've checked out the link and googled Hazan, just watched a video that showed what a Hazan does. Do you think Reuben Zaleg Felipe Cohen's (1810-1881) date of birth may be wrong? I have him aged 21 boarding the Achilles from Bristol, England to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on the 18th of July 1831. The ships manifest gives his age as 21 and occupation as a gentleman.

My understating is the Jews that migrated to Swansea were most probably German, or what was Germany in the 1700s is that your thinking? Also, Reuben's sister Harriet Cohen married David I Cohen of Maryland, Baltimore the wealthy banking and investment family on the 7th of July 1830 in Swansea. I've got a hunch they may have been related given the distance between Swansea and Baltimore and the surname, I know the Baltimore Cohens came from the Rhine in Germany. Do you have any insights on this, the possibility of a cousinship between Harriet and David? I'm using FamilySearch.org to collate data I'll add Catherine's siblings and her paternal grandfather. Once again thank you very much.

Leonard