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Re: Simeon Brim (b1887) of Wrestlingworth. Marriage or death?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 02 June 20 17:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cathy.  I'm sure TadlowNewell will be back to let us know what he thinks about Edgar being Simeon.

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Re: Simeon Brim (b1887) of Wrestlingworth. Marriage or death?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 02 June 20 18:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks for clarifying that Cathy.  As I had no idea what else the article said I wondered if I had been wasting my time posting about Edgar.

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Re: Simeon Brim (b1887) of Wrestlingworth. Marriage or death?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 02 June 20 19:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks all. I just need some time to process the new info I have received from you all today and update my database. Then I'll respond fully with a summary. My time is often not my own so please be patient!!

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Re: Simeon Brim (b1887) of Wrestlingworth. Marriage or death?
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 16:37 BST (UK) »
Dear all,

I have not yet unravelled all the Alfred/Wilfred/Edgar Brims you have unearthed, but will, I hope, sort them out shortly and let you know. I currently believe Simeon (Sim3) and Edgar are brothers, not alternative names for the same person, and they both seem to be up in Yorkshire, sharing a house. However I could be wrong.

The only information Cathy sent me 'privately' yesterday was, as she explained, three newspaper cuttings from the British newspaper Archive. I have not worked out how to post attachments or insert images in Rootschat using this old-fashioned HTML editor, and I suspect Cathy hasn't either, so she/I revert to alternative means of communication.

I propose posting full details of each cutting, one by one 'for posterity' as they provide useful information not easily available elsewhere.

Here's the complete transcription of the first. followed by my explanation/understanding of who the folk mentioned are.

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Biggleswade Chronicle and Beds Gazette, Friday 24 Sep 1926

Wrestlingworth.

Death of Mrs Brim.

We regret to record the death of Mrs Ann Brim, wife of Mr Simeon Brim, on Friday, Sept 17th. The funeral took place on Tuesday [21 Sep], the service, in the absence of the rector (Rev. E. D. F. Mann), being taken by the Rev. Price of Guilden Morden. The coffin was covered with beautiful flowers. The following were the mourners:

Mr Simeon Brim (husband)
Messrs Simeon and Frank Brim (sons)
Mrs A Humberstone (daughter)
Messrs J. and D. Bland (brothers)
Mrs W. Holbon (sister)
Mr Allen Freeman (grandson)
Miss M Humberstone (granddaughter)
Mr A Humberstone and Mr B Newell (sons-in-law)
Mrs F. Brim (daughter-in-law)
Mrs J Bland (sister-in-law)
Mrs Franklin (niece)
Mrs Waldock (friend)
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  • Mrs Brim:               Ann nee Bland, born 1853, Wrestlingworth.
  • Simeon Brim           my 'Sim2' (1851 - 1931), husband of Ann
  • Simeon and Frank     Sons of Simeon and Ann. Simeon is my "Sim3"
  • A Humberstone:       Rose Elizabeth Brim (1877-1948), daughter of Simeon and Ann,
                                       married to Albert Edward Humberstone
  • J and D Bland:       Joseph (1857-) and David (1867-) brothers of Ann
  • Mrs W Holbon:        Elizabeth Bland (1871-) mar to William Holbein Smith 1890
  • Allen Freeman:       Allan Simeon Frank Brim Freeman (1908-1985), son of Simeon ("Sim3")  (or possibly Edgar)and Margaret Freeman 
  • Miss M. Humberstone: Marjorie Evelyn (~1908-) daughter of Albert Edward and Simeon'n'Ann's daughter Rose Eliz. Brim
  • Mr A Humberstone:    Albert Edward (1873-1954) husband of Rose Eliz. Brim
  • Mr B Newell:         William 'Bill' (1914-1984), son of Ann's daughter Emma Charlotte Newell (1883-1918)
  • Mrs F Brim:          Florence Amy nee Fowler (1897-1965), wife of Frank Brim (1894--1966)
  • Mrs J Bland:         Lucy, nee Rainbow (1852-), Wife of Joseph
  • Mrs Franklin:          I cannot work out who this 'niece' is



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Re: Simeon Brim (b1887) of Wrestlingworth. Marriage or death?
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 17:04 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the update

When Allan Simeon Frank Brim Freeman married Hilda Bullard he named his father as Edgar Brim - Police Constable though this was struck through - presumably because he was illegitimate.
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Re: Simeon Brim (b1887) of Wrestlingworth. Marriage or death?
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 03 June 20 17:38 BST (UK) »
Here's the transcript of the second press cutting sent to me by Cathy. It records the death in 1931 of Simeon Brim. The cast list is much the same as at his wife Ann's funeral a few years earlier in 1926.
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Biggleswade Chronicle and Bedfordshire Gazette, Friday June 5th 1931

WRESTLINGWORTH

Death of Mr. Simeon Brim.

We regret to record the death, at the age of 79 years, of Mr Simeon Brim, of Hatley Road, Wrestlingworth, which occurred on May 22nd. The funeral took place on May 26th at Wrestlingworth, the Rev E. D. F. Mann officiating. The mourners were

Mr David Brim, East Ardley, Yorks (son)
Mrs R Humberstone (Daughter)
Mr Simeon Brim, Queensbury, Yorks (son)
Mr Frank Brim (son)
Mr Edward Newell and Miss Bessie Newell, Madingley, Cambs. (Grandchildren)
Mr Allen Freeman, Barley, Cambs (grandson)
Miss M Humberstone (granddaughter)
Mrs Holben (sister-in-law)
Mrs A. E. Chessum, Dunton (friend)
Mrs F Brim was unable to attend through illness

The coffin was of polished elm. Mr. Woodman of Potton was the undertaker.
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  • Mr Simeon Brim:     The deceased. My 'Sim2' (1851-1931)
  • Mrs R Humberstone:  Rose Elizabeth Brim (1877-1948), daughter of Simeon and Ann,
                                       married to Albert Edward Humberstone
  • Mr Simeon Brim      Son of Simeon and Ann. My 'Sim3' (1887-)
  • Mr Frank Brim         Son of Simeon and Ann. (1894-1966)
  • Edward and Bessie Newell: son and daur of Albert Edward Newell and Emma Charlotte Brim
  • Mr Allen Freeman    (1908-1985) Son of Simeon ('Sim3') or Edgar and Margaret Freeman. 
  • Miss M Humberstone  Marjorie Evelyn (~1908-) daughter of Albert Edward Humberstone and Simeon'n'Ann's daughter Rose Eliz. Brim
  • Mrs Holben              Elizabeth Bland (1871-) sister of Ann, mar to William Holbein Smith 1890

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Re: Simeon Brim (b1887) of Wrestlingworth. Marriage or death?
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 04 June 20 08:39 BST (UK) »
As it would appear from Allan S F B Freemans marriage his father was Edgar Brim

Mexborough & Swinton Times 04 December 1936
Retirement PC Edgar Brim, Brunswick Street, Thurnscoe retired from force after 25 years. Native of Bedfordshire. Spent most of service in and around Halifax, been in Thurnscoe 4 years. Of a quiet & reserved disposition he took little part in public life of Thurnscoe. He has gone with his wife to live at Sprotburgh Park.
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Re: Simeon Brim (b1887) of Wrestlingworth. Marriage or death?
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 04 June 20 09:56 BST (UK) »
Here's the transcript of the third press cutting Cathy found. It is from 1953 and records the marriage of Simeon Peter Brim, son of Frank. i.e. he becomes 'Sim4' in my naming convention.

There is less information of genealogic interest here, but it makes fascination reading and is so 'of its time': "The younger maids wore...nylon headdresses" and 'the honeymoon is being spent in Clacton'.

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Biggleswade Chronicle and Bedfordshire Gazette, Friday 4th Sep 1953

Mr. S. P. Brim and Miss J. Gray

At Biggleswade Old Meeting Baptist Church on August 27. Mr. Simeon Peter Brim, younger son of Mr. and Mrs. Frank Brim of 1 Hatley Road, Wrestlingworth was married to Miss Joan Gray, elder daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Albert Gray of Fairfield Road, Biggleswade.

The Rev. Hugh Fraser of Russell Park Baptist Church, Bedford officiated, and Mrs H. T. Salt was organist for the hymns "The Lord's my shepherd" and "O perfect love".

Given away by her father, the bride wore a dress of white-figured taffeta with full length embroidered veil and headdress of orange blossom and carried a shower bouquet of pink roses, carnations and fern. She wore a double string of pearls, the gift of the bridegroom.

Bridesmaids were the Misses Brenda and Sheila Gray (bride's sisters) and Beryl Slade and Jennifer Brim (nieces of the bridegroom). The two elder maids wore dresses of ice-blue taffeta with net overskirts, matching blue half-hats, flowered to match their bouquets of lemon carnations. The two younger maids wore lemon taffeta dresses with nylon matching headdresses and carried lemon and pink carnations.

Mr Alec Brim (bridegroom's brother) was best man and a reception was held at Park's Cafe. The honeymoon is being spent at Clacton, the bride travelling in a pale blue costume with white accessories. Mr and Mrs Brim will live at 1 Hatley Road, Wrestlingworth.

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Re: Simeon Brim (b1887) of Wrestlingworth. Marriage or death?
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 04 June 20 11:14 BST (UK) »
Ancestry has a record (image) of Edgar Brim joining the West Yorks police force on 2 oct 1911. Age 25 years, from Wrestlingworth. His previous occupation was as a Platelayer with South-Eastern Railway Company at Charlton Kent.
Ancestry.com. West Yorkshire, England, Police Records, 1833-1914