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John Webster 1774 West Ardsley, Wakefield ?
« on: Saturday 06 June 20 13:13 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone,

I’ve been trying to find the parents for John Webster born about 1774 West Ardsley, Wakefield? 

Also I’ve found a marriage 1795 to Ann in West Ardsley.  I’m hoping someone could help me find the suraname of Ann?

Also help with finding the parents names for John Webster?

Thank you
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Re: John Webster 1774 West Ardsley, Wakefield ?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 June 20 13:59 BST (UK) »
I am just wondering where you found John Webster's marriage to Ann in 1795 - if it didn't also give her surname.

The only marriage I can see in the surrounding area is on 6 Jan 1796 at St Peter's Bradford (Cathedral) - to Ann Hartley.

As regards baptisms - unfortunately there are several John Websters! There is one on 14 Sept 1774 at Wakefield All Saints - father, Moses.

What did John and Ann name there eldest son please? Often that is the father's father's name.
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Re: John Webster 1774 West Ardsley, Wakefield ?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 June 20 14:10 BST (UK) »
Hi and thank you for your reply. 

I’ve just had a look and we don’t have any records for the marriage just notes.  I’m thinking it maybe guess work from the family.  It was an Ann that John married but we’re not sure now of the year or place. 

They all lived West Ardsley, Woodkirk area. 

Would births at West Ardsley or Woodkirk be recorded at Wakefield All Saints?

There’s a daughter Ann 1804 and son Thomas 1811 (but those are the only children’s names we have). 

Thank you  :)

Serjeant/ Sergeant/ Surgun/
Ipswich, Suffolk......
Shaw - Halifax area, (Ovenden, Northowram, Brighouse), Yorkshire......
Garratt - Crich/Belper/Ambergate, Derbyshire......
Elliott - Dewsbury, Yorkshire.....
Kay - Walton, Yorkshire.....
Griffiths - East Dean, Gloucestershire.....

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Re: John Webster 1774 West Ardsley, Wakefield ?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 June 20 14:39 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

I have found baptisms for both Ann and Thomas in the years you mention - but both at Farnley, St Michael's. Both children of John and Ann Webster. No 'abode' or occupation is shown. There are other children also.

Hence all these are baptisms at Farnley St Michael - all children of John and Ann Webster - there may be more whom I have missed.

Grace born 12/4/1800 bapt 11/5 1800
Ann born 29/12/1804 bapt 24/2 1805
Daniel born 4/1/1807 bapt 29/3/1807
Thomas born 8/9/1810 bapt 14/4/1811

I must say it's odd that there is a gap between a marriage for John and Ann and the birth of their apparant first child. I am not completely familiar with the area, which doesn't help!!
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Re: John Webster 1774 West Ardsley, Wakefield ?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 June 20 15:01 BST (UK) »
Farnley is not too far so this could well be the correct children and the correct area where I should be looking.  Maybe there might be a baptism for both John Webster and Ann too in this area?

Thank you for the other children’s names/details.

Maybe there’s a marriage more closer to the first child’s birth? 

Thank you for searching for me

Serjeant/ Sergeant/ Surgun/
Ipswich, Suffolk......
Shaw - Halifax area, (Ovenden, Northowram, Brighouse), Yorkshire......
Garratt - Crich/Belper/Ambergate, Derbyshire......
Elliott - Dewsbury, Yorkshire.....
Kay - Walton, Yorkshire.....
Griffiths - East Dean, Gloucestershire.....

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Re: John Webster 1774 West Ardsley, Wakefield ?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 June 20 16:33 BST (UK) »
OK -- John Webster seems to be quite a popular name!

I have found 2 baptised at Farnley in 1774;

John son of John on 15/4/1774
John son of William on 24/7/1774

So it's a bit up in the air! I think it needs more research - I am not convinced all the children have been found - and at the moment there is no son of John and Ann named William -- so John may be John's father.

I haven't yet looked for Ann - but will do.
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Re: John Webster 1774 West Ardsley, Wakefield ?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 June 20 16:48 BST (UK) »
Cannot see Ann Hartley baptised at Farnley with a range of 5 years before and after John's birth. HOWEVER, again it is a common name and there are many baptised in the surrounding areas.

It looks like Farnley Church may have been a 'chapel of ease' for the mother church of Leeds St Peter.

Also we don't know for sure that John Webster's wife was Ann Hartley - that one just fit the year you had.

Father's names did not generally appear on marriage records until Civil Registration started on 1 July 1837. Although witnesses names may have appeared and they can sometimes be family members.

If you have no subscription to a genealogy site -- just have a look on Family Search. You need to register -- but it's free.

https://www.familysearch.org

You may find things on there which I haven't -- as I haven't yet checked that site.
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Re: John Webster 1774 West Ardsley, Wakefield ?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 June 20 18:20 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your time researching for me, it’s very kind of you. 

It’s just typical that it’s a common name but not to worry.  Suppose it would help to find out if they had a son called William too. 

Thank you once again  :)
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Ipswich, Suffolk......
Shaw - Halifax area, (Ovenden, Northowram, Brighouse), Yorkshire......
Garratt - Crich/Belper/Ambergate, Derbyshire......
Elliott - Dewsbury, Yorkshire.....
Kay - Walton, Yorkshire.....
Griffiths - East Dean, Gloucestershire.....

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Re: John Webster 1774 West Ardsley, Wakefield ?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 June 20 18:33 BST (UK) »
Farnley St Michael records:
http://www.calverley.info/farn_bap.htm
 Brian
I can provide a link to St Peter if needed.
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