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« on: Tuesday 23 August 05 21:31 BST (UK) »

can anyone help I am looking for info about greengrocers, is there
a site ! grandfather owned  a shop from 1914-1925 in Cardiff.
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Brown, palmer, stidwell ,Hale Jewell , Macridis
brown, palmer, garrett, hale, stidwell, stedwell,jewell<br />Macridis. Yorkshire, Guernsey, cardiff , devon, greece.

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Re: grocers/greengrocers
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 August 05 22:03 BST (UK) »
You could try

www.historicaldirectories.org

It seems to cover the earlier part of the 20th century, so you might be lucky.

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: grocers/greengrocers
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 August 05 22:05 BST (UK) »
 ??? Hi  TGW. 48 What exactly do you want to know, do you want specific information about your gandfather, if so someone on the Welsh Boards may be able to help with Trade or Town Directories.

Alternatively, when and where was he born have you found him in any Census?

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Re: grocers/greengrocers
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 13:47 BST (UK) »
You could try

www.historicaldirectories.org

It seems to cover the earlier part of the 20th century, so you might be lucky.

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

Thanks for the reply, have tried www. historialdirectories but have found
not more than an address. Trouble is I have been trying for 2 years and
have only just established he was from Yorkshire originally and with a name like Brown.....say no more. Thanks again. tgw
brown, palmer, garrett, hale, stidwell, stedwell,jewell<br />Macridis. Yorkshire, Guernsey, cardiff , devon, greece.


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Re: grocers/greengrocers
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 13:53 BST (UK) »
??? Hi  TGW. 48 What exactly do you want to know, do you want specific information about your gandfather, if so someone on the Welsh Boards may be able to help with Trade or Town Directories.

Alternatively, when and where was he born have you found him in any Census?

Suey
\thanks  for reply have found address but need something with possibly a little more detail , like area of birth. Its like a 'needle in a haystack' tgw
brown, palmer, garrett, hale, stidwell, stedwell,jewell<br />Macridis. Yorkshire, Guernsey, cardiff , devon, greece.

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Re: grocers/greengrocers
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 14:20 BST (UK) »

Try a post on the Yorkshire Board if you think he was born there - tell us everything you do know about your Grandfather...

When was he born - who was his wife - did he have children -any other family members - if he was a grocer c1914 he must be somewhere in 1901 ?  OK his name was Brown, but we do have some very clever and persistant Rootschatters.
All census lookups are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Sussex - Knapp. Nailard. Potten. Coleman. Pomfrey. Carter. Picknell
Greenwich/Woolwich. - Clowting. Davis. Kitts. Ferguson. Lowther. Carvalho. Pressman. Redknap. Argent.
Hertfordshire - Sturgeon. Bird. Rule. Claxton. Taylor. Braggins

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Re: grocers/greengrocers
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 18:42 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Dont have much except he was born in Yorkshire(gained from 1901 cencus)
His age based on the cencus and marraige cert gives him at born between 1871-72    the cencus ony says yorkshire no area.married my mother in cardiff in 1897, emma maud, Fathers name was joseph ,shown on his marriage cert as farmer.
Had two daughters my mother in 1915 Irene maud and gladys in 1899.
As you can imange brown isnt the easiest of names.Have his the marraige and Irene mauds birth cert but doesnt give any more info. Have sent for cert
between this range but to no avail. Any help would be appreciated.tgw
brown, palmer, garrett, hale, stidwell, stedwell,jewell<br />Macridis. Yorkshire, Guernsey, cardiff , devon, greece.

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Re: grocers/greengrocers
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 19:07 BST (UK) »
Have I missed his first name somewhere in there?

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: grocers/greengrocers
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 19:31 BST (UK) »
Process of elimination - would this be them?

Marriage

Cardiff June quarter 1897

Emma Maud PALMER
William Henry BROWN

Vol 11a  Page 675

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)