Author Topic: Horton, Ribblesdale - Mills, Occupations and Great-grandparents  (Read 1712 times)

Offline daisynook

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 634
    • View Profile
Re: Horton, Ribblesdale - Mills, Occupations and Great-grandparents
« Reply #9 on: Friday 12 June 20 10:06 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your help.  Pleased that you found the right family.  I have had a look at Graces' Guide but I think that's going to be a difficult search.  I'm now going to try the Horton genealogy pages.  I can see they say that Horton is 2 miles from Bradford.  There is also a village called Little Horton which is on one of the census returns.
If I find anything relevant I will come back to you.
McMullen, Gleave, Kelly, Scholes, Mather, Phillips, Lock

Offline Maiden Stone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,226
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Horton, Ribblesdale - Mills, Occupations and Great-grandparents
« Reply #10 on: Friday 12 June 20 14:49 BST (UK) »
Well, seeing the page makes it perfectly obvious its NOTHING to do with horton in Ribblesdale.

No wonder we had such trouble finding the 1891 census.
Pauline

It's Family Search which has it as Horton-in-Ribblesdale. Bradford is about 30 miles south. I was puzzled how it could have been in Bradford registration district when the 2 places are so far apart.
Cowban

Offline daisynook

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 634
    • View Profile
Re: Horton, Ribblesdale - Mills, Occupations and Great-grandparents
« Reply #11 on: Friday 12 June 20 14:56 BST (UK) »
Yes, very confusing.  I'm still sitting here searching.  Just come across on Family Search https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/LVZG-QW8 a 1881 Census showing the 3 young daughters living in Horton or Horton in Ribblesdale on the same form, take your pick.  No wonder I'm having problems finding them.  I believe Quaker Terrace was in Bradford!!  Elizabeth was born in Bradford https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/LVZG-QW8
McMullen, Gleave, Kelly, Scholes, Mather, Phillips, Lock

Offline Maiden Stone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,226
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Horton, Ribblesdale - Mills, Occupations and Great-grandparents
« Reply #12 on: Friday 12 June 20 15:13 BST (UK) »
Yes, very confusing.  I'm still sitting here searching.  Just come across on Family Search https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/LVZG-QW8 a 1881 Census showing the 3 young daughters living in Horton or Horton in Ribblesdale on the same form, take your pick. 

Have you looked at an image of the census enumerator's book?  See Millmoor's advice about the description of the enumeration district. It's usually at the front of the enumerator's book.
I was only going by the transcription of the household on Family Search.
Cowban


Offline Maiden Stone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,226
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Horton, Ribblesdale - Mills, Occupations and Great-grandparents
« Reply #13 on: Friday 12 June 20 15:35 BST (UK) »
Local directories?

"White's Directory of Bradford, Halifax, Wakefield, .... and other towns ... being engaged in worsted manufacture ... followed by general trades directory of districts" (1887  15th edition)
Has an index of places. Horton (Great and Little) are under the post town of Bradford.

"Post Office Bradford Directory" 1891 (other years available)
"Kelly's directory of the West Riding of Yorkshire"  1881 (There were various Kelly's Directories for Yorkshire and other editions)
"Directory of Leeds, Bradford" 1854        (I don't know if there were later editions)
"Ibbetson's Directory of Bradford" 1850           (ditto )
"Lund's Bradford Directory"  1856                    (ditto)
Several directories with title "Leeds and Manufacturing Districts". Need to look at title page of each to see area included.
Slater's Directories

All above are in Library of University of Leicester Special Collections: Historical Directories of England and Wales. Pages can be viewed.
https://www2.le.ac.uk/library/find/specialcollections
Some may also be in other collections. Some are on pay-to-view sites.

Added. White's Directory includes a street directory for Bradford with business proprietors and tradespersons in each street followed by an alphabetical directory by name.
You could make a list of streets in the neighbourhood of your ancestor's home and begin your search for mills that way. They probably lived within walking distance of work. There might have been a mill in every street. 
Cowban

Offline Maiden Stone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,226
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Horton, Ribblesdale - Mills, Occupations and Great-grandparents
« Reply #14 on: Friday 12 June 20 16:06 BST (UK) »
List of mills in Bradford in Wikipedia. Arranged in alphabetical order of district. There were about 50 mills in Horton. There's a link to map location for each.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mills_in_Bradford
 
Cowban

Online Millmoor

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,475
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Horton, Ribblesdale - Mills, Occupations and Great-grandparents
« Reply #15 on: Friday 12 June 20 17:21 BST (UK) »
Just to say that in the original census for 1891 the family are split between 2 pages - William , Sarah, Henry and William are at the foot of one page with the three younger daughters all at the top of the next page - all at 11 Quaker Terrace.


Here is a useful map from the NLS site which shows the location of Quaker Lane for about 1908 and you can see the position of local mills.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=53.77831&lon=-1.77553&layers=6&b=1



And the 25 inch map for the same period has Quaker Terrace marked - it is not surprisingly a branch off Quaker Lane!

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.77757&lon=-1.77473&layers=168&b=1
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

Offline daisynook

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 634
    • View Profile
Re: Horton, Ribblesdale - Mills, Occupations and Great-grandparents
« Reply #16 on: Friday 12 June 20 17:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you Millmoor about the 1891 Census being split, that explains it!!  Also thanks very much for the maps.  I can't quite see Quaker Terrace at the moment but good map of Lane.
Thanks also to Maiden Stone for all the info on the mills. It will take me a little while to study all of them but will keep looking, feel like I'm getting nearer.
McMullen, Gleave, Kelly, Scholes, Mather, Phillips, Lock

Offline Maiden Stone

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,226
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Horton, Ribblesdale - Mills, Occupations and Great-grandparents
« Reply #17 on: Friday 12 June 20 17:55 BST (UK) »
List of mills in Bradford in Wikipedia. Arranged in alphabetical order of district. There were about 50 mills in Horton. There's a link to map location for each.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mills_in_Bradford

Haycliffe Mills on list were written Aycliffe on some maps.
Cowban