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Re: Help re: deciphering a name plus a curious address in Hook Heath
« Reply #18 on: Friday 12 June 20 12:58 BST (UK) »
Allen House was on Hook Heath Road.
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Re: Help re: deciphering a name plus a curious address in Hook Heath
« Reply #19 on: Friday 12 June 20 13:07 BST (UK) »
I don't think Pines starts with a P (if that makes sense!)  Maybe more like an S?

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Re: Help re: deciphering a name plus a curious address in Hook Heath
« Reply #20 on: Friday 12 June 20 13:49 BST (UK) »
Allen House was on Hook Heath Road.

As shown on this map https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/499192/157121/13/101329
if it comes up with 'subscribe to view mapping.....' just click a few times on the zoom out button top left of the screen and the map will come into view.
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Re: Help re: deciphering a name plus a curious address in Hook Heath
« Reply #21 on: Friday 12 June 20 13:57 BST (UK) »
Good morning (in the US, at least :) ) to hanes teulu, Spidermonkey, MonicaL, JenB,

I think each of you is on to something... (By the time I got to hitting the post button there has been some new posts so apologies in advance if I missed something but here goes.)

hanes teulu - I've been looking at your 1913 map as well as a current Google map and it looks as if Pine Rd borders what may have been the athletic fields of the school grounds (now a lawn tennis club)? That's just a guess but it would seem the old school property has since been cut up by developers for housing - perhaps the athletic facilities were kept intact? According to Google maps it's only a very short walk to "Allen House." It seems it could be more than a coincidence that there is a Pine Road so near the school?
http://tiny.cc/g29pqz (link to Google map, the Satellite view is helpful too)

Spidermonkey - I came across that name "Maw, Esq." just as I was looking into the new information this morning. I definitely don't see it in the manifest name but the Electoral Roll in 1920 with a Wylie G H Elliot sounds promising. Are these Electoral Rolls available online through Ancestry, etc.? I'm an amateur at genealogy so still figuring out my way around most of this but I'll definitely look into that lead.

MonicaL - I'm so glad you saw Bined because that is what I was seeing (Bined or Bened). And, I agree, it doesn't seem to make sense. I tried looking at several variations of names along those lines but couldn't find anything. I'm using Ancestry, Trove for newspapers as I don't have access to British newspapers, Google searches and various (US) library resources at the moment - so I may not be covering all areas but, ultimately, I haven't made much progress deciphering it.
As for extending her family - the easy answer is yes, I have. I know quite a bit about her. But the more in depth answer is that she had a very complicated life with lot's of name changes and aliases. On this manifest she is listed as Mary Bousfield. Bousfield is neither her maiden name nor her first husband's name. If she remarried and was widowed by a man named Bousfield it would have had to happen between between about 1912-1916 and could have been in the US or Britain as she moved between them. Her first husband was in a high profile arrest for fraud and she may have chose to use an alias or a relative's name as to avoid the scandal. I do know her maiden name, her mother's married name and that her father was supposedly "Harley Street" doctor in London (so a big deal - I can find a famous doctor that fits the bill but no record of him being married to Mary's mother or having Mary). Let's just say, something is off with their background. I was hoping this "cousin" may be the puzzle piece that would crack that mystery - so it's especially frustrating to have such an interesting clue and yet not get any further with it... But it really helps to have other people's opinions!   

JenB - I'm just guessing here but perhaps Pine Road did border the school grounds back then? But then I'm back to - does it say Pine Rd or is it an entirely different word. I'll keep digging...

Thank you to each of you, all as always. I'm off to search some of these new leads and see if I can get any closer to the identity of the mysterious cousin. Have a great weekend!
Smith, Ley, Lodwig, Warren, Tovey, McGaa, Copeland, Totterdale


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Re: Help re: deciphering a name plus a curious address in Hook Heath
« Reply #22 on: Friday 12 June 20 14:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Brinda, the electoral rolls are available via ancestry.  I'll see if it will let me place a link here https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/4829/ if this doesn't work, look for Surrey, England, Electoral Registers 1832-1962 in the card catalogue.

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Re: Help re: deciphering a name plus a curious address in Hook Heath
« Reply #23 on: Friday 12 June 20 14:11 BST (UK) »
Spidermonkey - perfect, thank you!
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Re: Help re: deciphering a name plus a curious address in Hook Heath
« Reply #24 on: Friday 12 June 20 14:13 BST (UK) »
I understand that you are reticent to share too much information, but do you know to what extent Mary knew her father?  Would it be more likely that any family connection was through Mary's mother?

Also, did Mary tend to be consistent with her age/date of birth?

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Re: Help re: deciphering a name plus a curious address in Hook Heath
« Reply #25 on: Friday 12 June 20 14:20 BST (UK) »
Spidermonkey - I came across that name "Maw, Esq." just as I was looking into the new information this morning. I definitely don't see it in the manifest name but the Electoral Roll in 1920 with a Wylie G H Elliot sounds promising. Are these Electoral Rolls available online through Ancestry, etc.? I'm an amateur at genealogy so still figuring out my way around most of this but I'll definitely look into that lead.

Francis Maw was the headmaster at Allen House.
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Re: Help re: deciphering a name plus a curious address in Hook Heath
« Reply #26 on: Friday 12 June 20 14:32 BST (UK) »
Spidermonkey - I came across that name "Maw, Esq." just as I was looking into the new information this morning. I definitely don't see it in the manifest name but the Electoral Roll in 1920 with a Wylie G H Elliot sounds promising. Are these Electoral Rolls available online through Ancestry, etc.? I'm an amateur at genealogy so still figuring out my way around most of this but I'll definitely look into that lead.

Francis Maw was the headmaster at Allen House.

And, (utterly irrelevant to this search!) he was a member of the family of Maw and Co encaustic tile makers, based in Jackfield, Ironbridge http://www.mawscraftcentre.co.uk/history.php They made the most gorgeous tiles ever! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maw_&_Co