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A CARR Family Error by GRO?
« on: Monday 15 June 20 15:39 BST (UK) »
I have a puzzle to deal with concerning the parentage of 3 CARR children born between 1874 and 1881.
One of the children Lucy Jane Carr born 1878 at Blackburn married in 1903 and her father was named James Atkinson CARR.  Now the GRO index record taken from Free BMD says James Atkinson CARR married Susanna MORLEY in 1873.
The problem is that Lucy Jane c 1878 and her two siblings 1875 and 1881 were registered with mothers maiden name HAMPSON there is no sign of children with a MORLEY mother.
There is no sign of any Susanna death, so is this a GRO error or is there an alternative I have not thought of?
Advice would be most welcome.
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Re: A CARR Family Error by GRO?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 June 20 15:46 BST (UK) »
Lancashire BMD shows the marriage, Leigh Register Office or Registrar attended as James Atkinson Carr and Susannah Carr. Morley
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/marriagesearch.php

Correction made re transcription of name. Thanks to BumbleB. :)
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Re: A CARR Family Error by GRO?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 June 20 15:48 BST (UK) »
It may be that Susanna had been married before and so when asked for previous name to register the birth gave her married name.

Also, I have had scenarios where the mother (in this case Susanna) was born to an unmarried mother so was registered under one surname.  The unmarried mother later weds, and Susanna gets mother's married surname and appears on censuses etc with that name.  When Susanna gives birth, she gives the name that she was registered with at birth, but not the name that has been given on censuses.

Have you got Susanna from birth, through censuses and right through to death?

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Re: A CARR Family Error by GRO?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 June 20 15:54 BST (UK) »
1881 4182/64/3
James Carr 36 Yrs
Susannah Carr 37 Yrs
Lewis Carr   11 yrs
James Carr 7 Yrs
William Carr 6 Yrs
Lucy Jane Carr 3 yrs

1871 4209/88/15

Susannah and child Louis Morley are lodging with a Hampson family in Preston. Susannah shows as married.
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Re: A CARR Family Error by GRO?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 June 20 15:57 BST (UK) »
This may help

Baptism: 20 Aug 1876 St Mary RC, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Alexander Carr - Filius James Carr & Susannah (formerly Morley and Hampson)
    Born: 19 Aug 1876
    Godparents: Abraham Carr; Jane Ann Hampson
    Notes: [Mother maiden name as entered].]
    Baptised by: Richard Dunderdale
    Register: Baptisms 1872 - 1897, Page 119, Entry 601
    Source: Original Register
Baptism: 23 Sep 1876 St Mary RC, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
William Carr - Filius James Carr & Susannah (formerly Morley)
    Born: 5 Jan 1875
    Godparents: Abraham Carr; Jane Ann Hampson
    Baptised by: Richard Dunderdale
    Register: Baptisms 1872 - 1897, Page 122, Entry 614
    Source: Original Register

Baptism: 28 Apr 1878 St Mary RC, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Lucy Jane Carr - Filia James Carr & Susannah (formerly Hansome)
    Born: 17 Apr 1878
    Godparents: Abraham Carr; Mary Ann Close
    Baptised by: Richd. Dunderdale
    Register: Baptisms 1872 - 1897, Page 174, Entry 877
    Source: Original Register

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Re: A CARR Family Error by GRO?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 June 20 15:59 BST (UK) »
MMN on Louis Morley's birth is shown as Hampson

sorry Lancsann - redboxed by you!

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Re: A CARR Family Error by GRO?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 June 20 16:00 BST (UK) »
Lancashire BMD shows Louis b 1870 mmn Hampson.

There is a marriage, 1864 , Preston St John for Susannah Hampson and William Morland  :-\
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Re: A CARR Family Error by GRO?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 June 20 16:04 BST (UK) »
Lancashire BMD shows the marriage, Leigh Register Office or Registrar attended as James Atkinson Carr and Susannah Carr.
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/marriagesearch.php

Sorry, LancashireBMD confirm that the marriage was between James Atkinson Carr and Susannah Morley.  :)

A copy of the marriage certificate would verify the true record.

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Re: A CARR Family Error by GRO?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 June 20 16:06 BST (UK) »
On the 1864 marriage between William Morland and Susannah Hampson, William is 16 and his father's name is Elisha Morland.  Susannah is 19 and her father is Thomas Hampson. 


Does this help confirm whether this is the correct Susannah? Birth dates are +/- 1844.