Thomas Lovatt and the English Civil War

[devongeorge]

Hi there,
I've just found this chat and posts.  I believe that I am related to Draper Lovatt (Lapley area). We have worked a family tree upwards.
Also there was a Jeremiah Lovatt who founded a charity in Wheaton Aston / Lapley in the 1750's. We have a copy of his will so I know who his living relatives were.
The missing piece of the jigsaw for me is who Draper's parents were and which bit of the Jeremiah tree they come from. 
I must admit to being confused by your potential London connections given the number of Lovatts in the Lapley area. 
Are you guys (M and Izzy) still on this chat ?

[M_ONeill]

Hi George,

I don't know about Lizzie, but I still drop in and out of the forums!

I have you right, then the Jeremiah you mention is the one listed as 'Pater Familias' (head of the family) in the records; his will being an exceptionally large one with many bequests. I believe that I descend through Jeremiah's eldest sister Elizabeth (married surname Masefield).

I am also yet to find a confirmed link into Jeremiah's branch, although there does seem to be one. There's a Draper Lovatt who dies in 1830 who seems to (potentially) have taken over the Lovatt family holdings in Wheaton Aston by the time of his death.

I've wondered if he may be from another branch of the Lovatt Family, linked to Jeremiah somewhat more distantly. There are definitely a few of them threaded through the local region. As for the London link, I have it pencilled in as a possibility, but I've yet to find any hard evidence of a connection.

[devongeorge]

Hi, Great to hear from you.

Yes  this is the same Jeremiah. We have found his will is brilliant for the family tree as it helpfully mentions his siblings names and nieces and nephews. Yes his sister Elizabeth was born in 1683 and married Richard Masefield. Jeremiah clearly had no living children (that he was happy to leave property / wealth to) but had siblings / nephews and nieces.

My interest comes from falling over a Lapley parish magazine article in 1980's about the Jeremiah Lovatt charity and knowing that my great great grandfather was also Jeremiah Lovatt from Lapley / Wheaton Aston (we have his scholar certificate 1856).

Working upwards believe that we have determined that this 1856 Jeremiah (b1842) was descendant of Jeremiah (b1786) son of Drapier  Lovatt.

So the search was always to determine how the two linked.  So close in years and so missing in information.

I hadn’t given any consideration at all to the Civil War although it would be rather fun to know which side we were on.   I will look back at my information to see if I have anything interesting but it won't be for a couple of weeks now

Thanks for coming back

[lzzl25]

Hello
I have not been doing much research recently but it's great to hear from you. The London connection is by no means certain except the only Draper Lovatt I can find was baptized there and according to the names of Draper's daughters in his will there is also an indication they were in London. I will have to revisit the records and see what else I can find

[devongeorge]

Hi.  Me too (with the revisiting).   I hadn't worried about the girls as they weren't part of the Lovatt line but its a good point. I too have a copy of the Draper will.  I'll have another look (when I get a chance)

[lzzl25]

Hi,
The younger daughter Lettice who married Benjamin Blakemore in 1815 is my 3x great-grandmother. She seems to have remained in Lapley until 1840s and then moved to Wolverhampton where in 1851 census she is a widow living with her daughter and son in law.

Two other daughters are Susanna Herbage and Elizabeth Garrett both of whom appear to have married in London
Marriage, 16 Jun 1801 • Westminster St George, Hanover Square, Middlesex to John Herbage
Marriage, 12 Sep 1807 • Saint Mary, St Marylebone Road, Westminster, Middlesex to Edward Garrett

Draper himself I believe married 3 Jan 1775 • Holy Cross, Bobbington, Staffordshire to Mary Marrion, he was 32 and she was 17. Her family history is very well documented, however I am unsure about his parents.

Lizzie

[annafinney]

I have the following which seems to be consistent with all the previous posts (note that some years may have been changed to reflect the change from the Julian to Gregorian calendar):

1 Hugo Lovatt d. 1615 Stone m. Joana Huddlestone 1590 Stone
   1.1 Richard Lovat b. 1590 Stone St Michael d. 1629/30 m. Rose Wilde 1622 Lapley All Saints
        (Rose married (2) 1631 John Fennihouse/Pheneas with whom she had four more children)
      1.1.1 Marie Lovatt b. 1624 Lapley All Saints
      1.1.2 Thomas Lovatt b. 1625 Lapley All Saints d. 1685 (See Will) m. Margery
                      1.1.2.1.Anne Lovat b. 1651 Lapley All Saints m. Samuel Sayer
                 1.1.2.2 Joseph Lovat b. 1653 Lapley All Saints d. 1687 (See Will) m. Maria Lenthall
                      (Maria m. (2) John Manning in 1708 Blymhill
            1.1.2.2.1 Maria Lovatt b. 1678 Lapley All Saints
            1.1.2.2.2 Thomas Lovatt b. 1680 Lapley All Saints
                           1.1.2.2.3 Joseph Lovatt b. 1682 Lapley m. Francisca Goldsmith 1711 Lapley
                                   1.1.2.2.3.1 Thomas Lovatt b. 1711 Lapley All Saints m. Bridget Draper
               1.1.2.2.3.2 Maria Lovatt b. 1713 Lapley All Saints
               1.1.2.2.3.3 Anna Lovatt b. 1716 Lapley All Saints
               1.1.2.2.3.4 William Lovatt b. 1720 Lapley All Saints
            1.1.2.2.4 Richard Lovatt b. 1684 Lapley All Saints
            1.1.2.2.5 Margaret Lovatt b. 1686 Lapley All Saints
         1.1.2.3 John Lovat b. 1656 Lapley All Saints m. Maria Blakemore 1682 Lapley
            1.1.2.3.1 Elisabeth Lovatt b. 1683 Lapley All Saints m. Richard Masefield 1706
            1.1.2.3.2 Thomas Lovatt b. 1685 Lapley All Saints d. 1759 m. Anna
               1.1.2.3.2.1 Thomas Lovatt b. 1724 d. 1759 m. Ellizabeth Walker 1747 Newport
                      1.1.2.3.2.1.1 George Lovatt b. 1749 Brewood
                      1.1.2.3.2.1.2 Michael Lovatt b. 1751 Brewood
               1.1.2.3.2.2 Rosa Lovatt b. 1726 Lapley All Saints
               1.1.2.3.2.3 Mary Lovatt b. 1732 Lapley All Saints m. Sanssome
               1.1.2.3.2.4 Jeremiah Lovatt b. 1743 Lapley All Saints d. 1748
            1.1.2.3.3 Maria Lovatt b. 1687 Lapley All Saints
            1.1.2.3.4 Jeremiah Lovatt b. 1690 Lapley d. 1768 m. Anna Green (d. 1766)
            m. 1719 Lapley All Saints and Blymill (He was shown age 26 but would have
            been 29. She was shown as 25 years)
               1.1.2.3.4.1 Jeremiah Lovatt b. 1721 Penkridge d. 1740 Penkridge
               1.1.2.3.4.2 William Lovatt b. 1730 Lapley All Saints d. 1730 Lapley
               1.1.2.3.4.3 Thomas Lovatt b. 1733  Church Eaton d. 1733 Lapley
            1.1.2.3.5 John Lovatt b. 1693 Lapley All Saints
            1.1.2.3.6 Anna Lovatt b. 1696 Lapley All Saints
            1.1.2.3.7 Joseph Lovett b. 1699 Lapley All Saints d. 1763 m. Mary d. 1781
               1.1.2.3.7.1 Mary Lovett b. 1735 Shifnal
               1.1.2.3.7.2 Joseph Lovett b. 1737 Shifnal d. 1770
               1.1.2.3.7.3 Anne Lovett b. 1739 Shifnal
               1.1.2.3.7.4 Elizabeth Lovett b. 1743 Shifnal
         1.1.2.4 Elizabeth Lovat b. 1660 Lapley All Saints m. William Bishton
         1.1.2.5 Jeremiah Lovat b. 1663 Lapley m. Katharine Grateley 1688 Penkridge
            1.1.2.5.1 Thomas Lovatt b. 1689 Penkridge d. 1689
            1.1.2.5.2 Margaret Lovatt b. 1693 Penkridge d. 1689
            1.1.2.5.3 Jeremiah Lovatt b. 1698 Penkridge d. 1772 m. Ann Whistons 1734
            Blymhill and Donnington (shown age 30 but would have been 36. Ann was 19.
            In presence of William Bishton and The. Pinches)
               1.1.2.5.3.1 Jane Lovatt b. 1743 Penkridge
               1.1.2.5.3.2 Richard Lovett b. 1745 Penkridge
               1.1.2.5.3.3 Lucy Lovett b. 1746 Penkridge
            1.1.2.5.4 Joseph Lovatt b. 1700 Penkridge
         1.1.2.6 Richard Lovatt b. c1669 Lapley m. Hana Sayer 1693 Lapley All Saints
            1.1.2.6.1 Thomas Lovatt b. 1694 Lapley All Saints m. Susannah Benton
               1.1.2.6.1.1 Abel Benton b. 1736 Penkridge
            1.1.2.6.2 Margerie Lovatt b. 1696 Lapley All Saints   
      1.1.3 Anne Lovatt b. 1628 Lapley All Saints
      1.1.4 John Lovatt b. 1630 Lapley All Saints m. Anne
         1.1.4.1 Francis Lovat b. 1654 Lapley All Saints
         1.1.4.2 James Lovat b. 1656 Lapley All Saints
         1.1.4.3 Martha Lovat b. 1659 Lapley All Saints
   1.2 Lawrence Lovatt b. 1593 Stone
   1.3 John Lovatt b. 1596 Stone

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