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Re: Baptism or 1841 census?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 25 June 20 22:12 BST (UK) »
possible 1841 to go with the Thoas & Sarah baptism


Name   Age
Thomas Dixon   30 plasterer
Sarah Dixon   25
Hannah Dixon   9
Robert Dixon   7
James Dixon   4
Alfred Dixon   1
Mary Blackburn   25
Chris Blackburn   8

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Re: Baptism or 1841 census?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 26 June 20 12:23 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

Thanks again for everyone's contributions!

I remain convinced that James' mother was a 'Glover', and probably a Jane Glover, as the evidence from the 1851 census definitely confirms that he was Thomas and James Glover's nephew, and that he can 'tentatively' be found with his mother, Jane Dixon (Dickson) on the 1841 census in Hurst Street, Liverpool, within the same household as Thomas and James Glover - Jane, Thomas and James, were all born in Scotland, James Dixon (Dickson), in Liverpool.

Surely, Jane's maiden name must have been Glover, born in Scotland c1800?

Sue

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Re: Baptism or 1841 census?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 26 June 20 12:32 BST (UK) »
Jane may have been married before so married a Dick(x)on under another name?
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Baptism or 1841 census?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 26 June 20 13:28 BST (UK) »
James and Thomas' parents were Walter Glover and Janet Brown and they had been born in Liberton, Midlothian.
Walter and Janet also had a daughter, Jane, baptised on the 28th July 1798, so I thought, perhaps, she was James' mother.

Where are you seeing Thomas and James as the children of Walter and Janet?  Their daughter Janet married William BORTHWICK and stayed in Liberton. 

Debra  :)

I saw that marriage too
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Re: Baptism or 1841 census?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 26 June 20 13:56 BST (UK) »
Yep - discounted that one too - how frustrating!

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Re: Baptism or 1841 census?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 26 June 20 14:15 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I am confused.  You mention 'Jane' with the baptism the same date as that of Janet Glover with parents Walter & Janet Glover in Liberton as a possible candidate for Jane Dixon but have discounted that marriage as being the same person.  The William Borthwick marriage names Janets father as Walter.

If William & Janet were still together in 1841 then that would rule her out as James mother.

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Re: Baptism or 1841 census?
« Reply #24 on: Friday 26 June 20 14:25 BST (UK) »
Hi

Sorry, I firstly, and mistakenly thought that Janet Glover (parents Walter and Janet), may have been the Janet Dixon (Dickson), who is James Dickson's mother - I see now that this is not the case.

I still believe her maiden name was Glover, hence her closeness to James and Thomas Glover, but, other than that, am now stumped"

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Re: Baptism or 1841 census?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 26 June 20 15:18 BST (UK) »
Have you proved that James & Thomas Glover are the sons of Walter & Janet, I can see that they do fit in very nicely with the baptisms for that family.  If so we need to be looking at Jane from a different angle

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I think this may be Walter & Janets son James in 1841, living Liberton
James   Glover   40   bn   Midlothian, Scotland
Elizabeth   Glover   25   bn    Midlothian, Scotland
Walter   Glover   bn    1841   Midlothian, Scotland

Still in Scotland 1861
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Re: Baptism or 1841 census?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 26 June 20 17:35 BST (UK) »
 Unless the 1841 Jane Dickson/Dixon was Thomas Dickson's sister and James' aunt...

Scotlands People don't seem to have a Thomas Dixon/Dickson plus Glover either but I have families from Scotland (Dicksons !) who aren't anywhere to be found on Scotlands People.

The Thomas Glover appears in 1861 as a widower and there's a marriage for Thomas Glover - plasterer - and Mary McLennan in 1825 in Liverpool.