Michael Kenny Irishman Oamaru 1875 onwards

[minniehaha]

"Hi Minniehaha,
You are right.  This man is the correct age - and though the stated "regiment" was 65th, not the 59th - it would be very easy for this to be incorrect.  The articles don't show that anyone had great knowledge of this Michael's life - so who knows.  Maybe i should go back to the NZ BMD's and see if there is an actual death registration for this one, and get some family details, if known."

The NZ BDM date of death shown above for 1890 was 24.10.1890, the same as the burial date.


Minniehaha.

[Johnf04]

Might be this set?

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullSeriesHistory.do

The names of persons receiving pensions that are contained in these registers are indexed into the General Biographical Card Index [BIO 1] located in Archives New Zealand, Wellington Office reading room.

That's the one.

[spades]

Hi Maggbill,

There is a book published by the New Zealand Society of Genealogists titled Discharged in New Zealand. Soldiers of the Imperial Foot Regiments who took their discharge in New Zealand 1840-1870. 

I have looked through my CD version but there is no soldier named 'kenny' in the 65th or any other regiment (the 59th Regiment did not serve in New Zealand). Although an exhaustive work this book does appear to have omissions, men presumed to have taken their discharge in New Zealand but aren't listed (my own list has six names). Michael KENNY might be another one.

I next tried this database http://www.soldiersofempire.nz/database.html and found three men of that name, two in the 14th Regiment of Foot (this is the contemporary way of recording a regiment's title) and one in the 57th Regiment of Foot. I doubt that either are candidates. Some men left very little record of their presence in New Zealand.

You might find these websites helpful for background information.

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~garter1/history/65thfoot.htm
https://collection.pukeariki.com/persons/5154
http://www.soldiersofempire.nz/blog/injury-and-illness-on-and-off-the-battlefield-in-the-new-zealand-wars

I can look for KENNY in the General Biographical Card Index [BIO 1] noted above (thanks John) on my next visit just in case his name is there.

Spades

[spades]

For elimination purposes. A Michael KENNY was in the 70th Regiment in New Zealand in 1863, and thinking of taking 'French leave' (i.e. deserting).

Daily Southern Cross, 7 April 1863, Page 3
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pno/

Spades

[spades]

I think that if the Oamaru KENNY can be proved to be your man the newspaper reports for him and Isabella must refer to him. How many Michael KENNY's were living at Oamaru at that period in time?

Spades

[maggbill]

Hi again everyone
KHP - sorry, if I have confused the system - running the story on two different posts...Not even sure if I am even now posting in the correct spot... My apologies... So, much information - need to get myself sorted out - and unfortunately won't be able to do it tomorrow - got a volunteering job to do.  But will attack it definitely on Wednesday.

Spades - you said..."I can look for KENNY in the General Biographical Card Index [BIO 1] noted above (thanks John) on my next visit just in case his name is there."
If you could do this for me, I would be delighted.  To clarify - I know for a fact that my Michael Kenny - definitely 59th Foot Reg No. 3601., was discharged 18th Dec. 1873, Burnley UK (saying he was going back to Ireland).  I don't think that he ever actually served in New Zealand, but went there already as a Pensioner.  And I now know for sure that he, listed with other 59th Foot guys has his pension rate etc. listed at Oamaru 30/6/1875, but if you can find any ongoing record of his payments that would be brilliant.
I have now also found a passenger list for a Michael Kenny - with wife Isabella - from "Clare' i.e. Co. Clare Ireland, in 1874 - but he is listed as a "ploughman" - combined with having wife already in tow, says to me, he is not my man. ??

You truly are a brilliant lot!  Chasing up so much for me, .... "Rootschatters Forever" !!!!!

[spades]

Hi again,

The fact that you don’t believe he served in New Zealand is very helpful.

But you have a Michael and Isabella KENNY leaving Co Clare in 1874, presumably sailing to New Zealand (what ship, please?) and a Michael and Isabella KENNY living in Oamaru.

If it looks like a duck...

Spades

[ShaunJ]

was discharged 18th Dec. 1873

In fact he served a further 12 days and was finally discharged on 30 December 1873, on which date he was admitted to pension.

[maggbill]

Hi again Spades,

Michael and Isabella Kenny arrived in Otago on the "Caroline" 14th April 1874.  Will attach the page - not sure how this will come out -