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Marriage at St Anne RC Ormskirk
« on: Monday 29 June 20 20:03 BST (UK) »
Looking for Jack Walmsley marriage to Margaret Arnold July 1933 please, parents names hopefully.

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ARNOLD, PARTINGTON, FOSTER in StHelens
BEBBINGTON, FINDLOW in Northwich
BURROWS,Billinge,Northwich
DUMBILL/DUMBELL, Gt Sankey, St Helens
EDMUNDSON in Northumberland, Warrington, St Helens, Manchester
HENDERSON, Northumberland,St Helens
LIPTROTT, Billinge
BURROWS, Billinge, Northwich

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Re: Marriage at St Anne RC Ormskirk
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 June 20 20:27 BST (UK) »
Births
Jack Walmsley. sept qtr 1899 Bury 8c 566. Mmn Wave

1901 shows father as James - widower
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Re: Marriage at St Anne RC Ormskirk
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 June 20 20:30 BST (UK) »
James Walmsley married Ada Wroe 1894   If you look at the 1901 entry an Elizabeth Wroe is shown as a boarder

Ada Walmsley aged 35 died Bury 1900

Daughter Doris birth shows mmn Wroe

Jack died 1975 - birthdate 19.8.1899
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Re: Marriage at St Anne RC Ormskirk
« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 June 20 20:36 BST (UK) »
Ancestry returned nothing so I checked Lancashire Archives and found this.

ORMSKIRK, St Anne; Archdiocese of Liverpool C 1736-1836 M 1784-1845
C 1862-1941 M 1866-1941
B 1750-1792
D to 1979
D to 1979
Copy reg Copy reg MI
Index
Microfilm Microfilm Transcript Transcript
DDX 241/26 MF 9/127 DDX 1500

It does not look like the records are Transcribed

This link will take you to the website so you can see it only looks like deaths have been transcribed

https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/media/67389/O.pdf


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Re: Marriage at St Anne RC Ormskirk
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 June 20 20:39 BST (UK) »
Re Margaret

She died 1988 and birthdate shown as 30.12.1904 so any birth reg will be March qtr 1905.  I would hazard a guess at her being the Prescot entry

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWY9-77H
If you check the 1939 entry you will find her mother living with them so that should help trace her in 1911
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Re: Marriage at St Anne RC Ormskirk
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 June 20 21:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks all. Yes she should be a  Prescot reg, I'm trying to get final proof that that is her mother who is connected to me.
It's the mother I'm interested in really, It's complicated. She was Mary Arnold nee Cain nee Meaney all RC records and I can't find Marys  birth except for  an index entry in our  RC church for an Ann Connors to Mary no surname....and that same birth date that Mary gives on the 1939 census, you may think it's a transcription error but it is registered at the GRO and local office as the same thing.

So, Ann Connors married John Meaney dec 1865
Mary Meaney born Sept 1865 (before the marriage so maybe reg as Connors because there is no reg for Meaney hence me thinking the above parish record could be her) Trying to avoid paying the GRO just yet. So was looking for the marriage above to get fathers name as a clue.  The fly in the oinment you see is my Mary Arnold(nee Meaney nee Cain) with the exact same birth date is also in her hometown with another daughter in the 1939 census.

Hope that makes sense because its boggling my mind.

Must mention, I do have ancestry
ARNOLD, PARTINGTON, FOSTER in StHelens
BEBBINGTON, FINDLOW in Northwich
BURROWS,Billinge,Northwich
DUMBILL/DUMBELL, Gt Sankey, St Helens
EDMUNDSON in Northumberland, Warrington, St Helens, Manchester
HENDERSON, Northumberland,St Helens
LIPTROTT, Billinge
BURROWS, Billinge, Northwich

BOAST, Suffolk,Widnes,St Helens :-
http://rattyclan.tribalpages.com/

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Re: Marriage at St Anne RC Ormskirk
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 June 20 22:17 BST (UK) »
Ignore - wrong info
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Re: Marriage at St Anne RC Ormskirk
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 June 20 22:28 BST (UK) »
1901 entry - all b St Helens

James Arnold    33
Mary Arnold    34
James Arnold    1
Lucy Cain    15
Henrietta Cain    12
Annie Cain    5
Mary Cain    10
Matthew Cain    14
John Cain    7
RG13 Piece 3521 Folio 113 Page 45

Married 1899 - nee Cain nee Meaney as you mention
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Re: Marriage at St Anne RC Ormskirk
« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 June 20 22:44 BST (UK) »
That's Mary aged 34 in the census but  her daughter Henrietta mother nee meaney was born registered MQ 1889 but was born Nov 1888
ARNOLD, PARTINGTON, FOSTER in StHelens
BEBBINGTON, FINDLOW in Northwich
BURROWS,Billinge,Northwich
DUMBILL/DUMBELL, Gt Sankey, St Helens
EDMUNDSON in Northumberland, Warrington, St Helens, Manchester
HENDERSON, Northumberland,St Helens
LIPTROTT, Billinge
BURROWS, Billinge, Northwich

BOAST, Suffolk,Widnes,St Helens :-
http://rattyclan.tribalpages.com/

https://sites.google.com/view/ss-samwater