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Re: Harriet CHAMBERS and sister E D chambers. Greasley
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 07 July 20 16:53 BST (UK) »
Here's a Mitchell/Chambers marriage, and in the right place:

1827 10 03   William MITCHELL and Sarah CHAMBERS at GREASLEY St Mary


so if we assume that they hadn't moved far,this is probably Sarah's baptism

1795 02 23   Sarah   father John CHAMBERS   mother Mary            at GREASLEY St Mary   


In 1841, Celina is with parents  William and Sarah, age 19, and he next sibling down is only 8 - a large age gap. So it looks as though Selina was born before her mum Sarah married (this would rule her out of being Samuel's daughter). I can't find a baptism for her, either as Mitchel* or Chamber*. But it looks as though Sarah came from a pretty large family (unless there were 2 John and Mary Chambers having children at the same time in Greasley and quite frankly I wouldn't be surprised at this rate!), and the child baptised immediately befofe Sarah, in 1792, was a William - if this was Hannah's father, then she and Selina would be cousins.
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Re: Harriet CHAMBERS and sister E D chambers. Greasley
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 07 July 20 17:32 BST (UK) »
A little bit more.... just to confirm  :)

Marriage at Mansfield St Peter and St Paul - 31st Jan 1842
John GOULDER & Selina Chambers

I am not sure if Local Studies are fully open, at some point I could try and have a look .

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last name = Goulder
first names  = Selina
burial date 15 May 1888
location Nottinghamshire

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Re: Harriet CHAMBERS and sister E D chambers. Greasley
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 07 July 20 22:15 BST (UK) »
The Mitchell/Chambers marriage we really want Sarah to be a widow - maiden name Lees.

This was the baptism I had for Selina and what I was working with.

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there is a Selina Chambers baptism 20 Apr 1823 with father Samuel mother Sarah Lees in Long Eaton Notts - is that near Greasley?

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Re: Harriet CHAMBERS and sister E D chambers. Greasley
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 12:55 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thank you for the help everyone. I have received a message from the RootsChatter that Dizzifish has been helping recently. Who believes Harriets father was Jesse chambers.

Before i had the marriage certificate I did find a census for 1841 with Jesse Chambers(1791) aged 50 as a gardener? and Harriet is on this cenus but being born 1826 aged 15.

Does anyone think this could be the right match, its quite confusing! Is it normal to lie on a marriage or could jesse be a grandfather or another relative?


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Re: Harriet CHAMBERS and sister E D chambers. Greasley
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 14:33 BST (UK) »
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Who believes Harriets father was Jesse chambers.

I thought we had the marriage certificate with father William written on it or am I mistaken ???
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Re: Harriet CHAMBERS and sister E D chambers. Greasley
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 14:35 BST (UK) »
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The only other information i have is on the marriage certificate she is 21 or 27 and spinster. Harriets father is William Chambers. witnesses John goulder, Celina goulder.

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Re: Harriet CHAMBERS and sister E D chambers. Greasley
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 14:52 BST (UK) »
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Who believes Harriets father was Jesse chambers.

I thought we had the marriage certificate with father William written on it or am I mistaken ???

Yes sorry the certificate does say William is father but I was just questioning it after the message i got, saying they believe jesse to be the father?

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Re: Harriet CHAMBERS and sister E D chambers. Greasley
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 14:53 BST (UK) »
Any reason they think that do you know?
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Re: Harriet CHAMBERS and sister E D chambers. Greasley
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 14:59 BST (UK) »
Hello.... :)

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Dizzifish has been helping recently. Who believes Harriets father was Jesse chambers.

I don't know if there has been a misunderstanding or that we have crossed wires.....

I have been helping and also another Rootschatter who has other contacts and other irons in the fire, so I am not privy to everything that has been said... so maybe one of them?

I haven't mentioned that I think Jesse Chambers is Harriett's father at all.

Is there a reason why you don't think that its Harriett's family in Greasley in 1841 - Piece number 857 - Folio number 39 - Page 25  ?

What I need to ask you is: does  the marriage certificate you have for John Severn & Harriett Chambers give John Severn's father as JOSEPH and Harriett's father as WILLIAM ? If they are not the correct fathers names, whose names were given?

I would have gone to our local studies to see what else I could find when and if it was suitable for me.

But it seems that can't happen any time soon -  they are to open on 13th July with limited hours , computers are available to use but Fiche and readers are not.

Nottingham Archives open on the 11th July - limited hours & visits by appointment only to view pre-ordered original archival documents only.

I see you have just confirmed that Harriett's father was given as William.... that is what I expected/ hoped it to have been.