Harriet CHAMBERS and sister E D chambers. Greasley

[Milliepede]

1851

John Goulder 36 coal miner
S Goulder 28 born Greasley
W Mitchel 11 visitor

there is a Selina Chambers baptism 20 Apr 1823 with father Samuel mother Sarah Lees in Long Eaton Notts - is that near Greasley?

[Milliepede]

1861 also has Mitchell folk, maybe mother Sarah has remarried?

This could all be wrong but posting just in case

Sarah Mitchell 65 widow
Dorothy Mitchell 24 daughter
William Mitchell 21 son
John Goulder 46 son in law
Selina Goulder 39 wife born Kimberley Notts

[Milliepede]

In 1841 she is down as Celina Mitchell 19 but no Harriet there just 4 young Mitchell children.

So if her father was Samuel and Harriets father was William they can't be siblings 

[Dizzifish]

Hello 

Recently I had been helping someone with some cross referencing which involved the couple you mention.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to complete what I was doing.

This was as far as I got..... hope it helps for you to continue.

1841 - Piece 857 - Folio number 39 - Page 25
Flatt, Greasley, Nottinghamshire

First name(s)   Last name   Sex   Age   Birth year   Birth place
William Chambers - Male   35   1806   Nottinghamshire
Mary   Chambers   Female   35   1806   Nottinghamshire
Moses Chambers Male   12   1829   Nottinghamshire
Harriott Chambers Female   10   1831   Nottinghamshire
Matilda Chambers Female   8   1833   Nottinghamshire
Susanna Chambers Female   5   1836   Nottinghamshire
William Chambers Male   2   1839   Nottinghamshire
Phoebe Chambers Female   0   1841   Nottinghamshire

GRO =
CHAMBERS, PHOEBE  / MMN = CHAMBERS 
GRO Reference: 1841  M Quarter in BASFORD UNION COUNTIES OF NOTTINGHAM DERBY  Volume 15  Page 479

Marriage = 21st March 1825 - NUTHALL St Patrick
William CHAMBERS & Mary CHAMBERS

[lewlew1]

In 1841 she is down as Celina Mitchell 19 but no Harriet there just 4 young Mitchell children.

So if her father was Samuel and Harriets father was William they can't be siblings 

Thank you Milliepede! yes i was hoping there was some kind of link to help find Harriet or her parents from Celina. Maybe a cousin or something if she was baptised as chambers(Long eaton is about 30mins from Greasley), and then her mother remarried as mitchell..? Are witnesses at weddings usually family or could it be anyone

 thanks again for helping 

[lewlew1]

Hello 

Recently I had been helping someone with some cross referencing which involved the couple you mention.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to complete what I was doing.

This was as far as I got..... hope it helps for you to continue.

1841 - Piece 857 - Folio number 39 - Page 25
Flatt, Greasley, Nottinghamshire

First name(s)   Last name   Sex   Age   Birth year   Birth place
William Chambers - Male   35   1806   Nottinghamshire
Mary   Chambers   Female   35   1806   Nottinghamshire
Moses Chambers Male   12   1829   Nottinghamshire
Harriott Chambers Female   10   1831   Nottinghamshire
Matilda Chambers Female   8   1833   Nottinghamshire
Susanna Chambers Female   5   1836   Nottinghamshire
William Chambers Male   2   1839   Nottinghamshire
Phoebe Chambers Female   0   1841   Nottinghamshire

GRO =
CHAMBERS, PHOEBE  / MMN = CHAMBERS 
GRO Reference: 1841  M Quarter in BASFORD UNION COUNTIES OF NOTTINGHAM DERBY  Volume 15  Page 479

Marriage = 21st March 1825 - NUTHALL St Patrick
William CHAMBERS & Mary CHAMBERS

Thank you Dizzifish.
I did come across this but did not feel like it was the same harriet. But perhaps maybe it is.. I just wondered why she has her sister living with her at a young age in 1851, when if this is their, family they are still together in 1851.. would really help if i could find a birth or baptism for harriet but as of yet i can't find anything.

[heywood]

The census was for that night only. She might not have lived with her permanently.

[Milliepede]

Witnesses can be family or friends or unrelated completely.

In 1841 there is already an 8 year old Mitchell child - Martha - so am thinking the second marriage for Sarah was sometime before that.  Husband looks to be William Mitchell. 

William Mitchell age 1 in 1841 has mothers name Lees which is correct.

Perhaps we could find a death for first husband Samuel to narrow it down? 

Sure there must be a link somewhere.

[Annie65115]

I'm trying to find baptisms for the Chambers children mentioned above;

Moses Chambers Male   12   1829   Nottinghamshire
Harriott Chambers Female   10   1831   Nottinghamshire
Matilda Chambers Female   8   1833   Nottinghamshire
Susanna Chambers Female   5   1836   Nottinghamshire
William Chambers Male   2   1839   Nottinghamshire
Phoebe Chambers Female   0   1841   Nottinghamshire

and basically I can't.

There was a Moses Chambers bapt to William and Mary in Awsworth in 1826, father's occ collier.So that looks hopeful. But the others aren't on the FHS CD. However there are other baptisms for William and Mary in Awsworth with a change in father's occupaton --- Sarah in 1827 (bricklayer), John in 1834 (Mason), another Moses in 1838 (bricklayer). I'm wondering if there was more than 1 William and Mary Chambers in the area having children at that time