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Re: Baptism, 1849 Salford, help with please
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 11 July 20 20:27 BST (UK) »
Kit -- do you have the marriage certificate for John and Elizabeth please?

I was just wondering what her father's name was -- which may help locate HER baptism and where it actually was.

(I realise you haven't asked for Elizabeth's baptism and that it's Ann's you are seeking - I was just wondering if her baptism may help you with Elizabeth's birth place.)

Ann's burial is not included in the Manchester burials on Ancestry - I have checked Non-conformist, Cathedral and C of E.
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Re: Baptism, 1849 Salford, help with please
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 11 July 20 20:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much for that Pennines - please, does the non-conformist records include catholics?

I've just had another look at John and Elizabeth's MC - she was a minor, and her father was
John Trimmington, Farmer. The writing is pretty awful, but I'm fairly sure it says Trimmington, not Timmington. I quite agree, I was wondering if Ann's bap or burial record might shed some light on Elizabeth.
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 11 July 20 20:56 BST (UK) »
Not that this helps with Ann’s baptism or death - is this her father John Wellington Hunt age 52
 burial 1872 Anfield Cemetery
Consecrated sec. 8 grave 1226
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/174926094
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Re: Baptism, 1849 Salford, help with please
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 11 July 20 20:59 BST (UK) »
Manchester cemeteries (Index free then credits)
Ann Hunt 0 yrs burial 4/10/1849

https://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/

She is in ‘Unknown’  Section 15 and is position number 70.

There is a discussion here about a similar burial
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=519590.0
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Re: Baptism, 1849 Salford, help with please
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 11 July 20 21:09 BST (UK) »
I thought that Ann's death was 1850 from a previous post?

That's a good find Ladyhawk! So he was buried back in Liverpool then.

I wonder if it was a family grave and baby Ann might be there? Mind you at that time - babies tended to be buried in an existing grave which had a small space available (that sounds awful I know - and didn't happen in all cases I hasten to add).

Kit --- only rarely do Non-Conformist records include Roman Catholics I'm afraid. It's most useful when they do. For instance the Non-Conformist Records do include a few years of RC records for St Albans RC Church at Blackburn at least.

The RC priests were most reluctant to relinquish their records in the early 19th century and before, because of the previous persecution of people with that faith.

I'm closing down now - so unless some super sleuth finds Elizabeth's baptism beforehand - I will have a hunt tomorrow!
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Re: Baptism, 1849 Salford, help with please
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 11 July 20 21:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much again for that Ladyhawk, heywood and Pennines.
In reply:
Yes, Ann's father, John W Hunt was the one buried in Liverpool in 1872, but baby Ann is not there, as I have checked previously. She is also not with the family on the 1851 Census in Liverpool.
Re the 4/10/1849 burial in Manchester Central Cemetery - please, would someone who died in Salford, be buried there? (The Ann Hunt Death in 2nd Q 1850 in Salford, was aged 18, so can be eliminated).
I have nothing to suggest that this family was RC.
Thanks for all your help,
Kit


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Re: Baptism, 1849 Salford, help with please
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 11 July 20 21:51 BST (UK) »
There is no death in Salford is there?

I think you would need to compare the birth/death certificates.

Where did the marriage take place? Was it the Registry Office?
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Re: Baptism, 1849 Salford, help with please
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 12 July 20 07:53 BST (UK) »
These people will locate John Wellington Hunt grave and tell you who is in with him
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Re: Baptism, 1849 Salford, help with please
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 12 July 20 08:07 BST (UK) »
His wife is certainly with him.

Death
March 1895 West Derby 8b 274
Hunt, Elizabeth Ann   
age 72   

Buried at Anfield Cemetery, 15 Feb 1895, in that private grave with John, 8 / 1226
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