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Dransfield/Kilner Hoylandswaine
« on: Tuesday 14 July 20 19:48 BST (UK) »
I've found the marriage of George Dransfield and Mary kilner in the Marriage indexes at Wortley district, in the first quarter of 1895 but can't work out which Mary this is, there are a few at the time. I've tried to look up the church from the look up from the references, but it doesn't identify a church from these - vol 9c, page 320. Does anyone know the churches in this area who could try and find the parish registers, to find Mary's family. Thank you

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Re: Dransfield/Kilner Hoylandswaine
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 20:28 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat

There is a tree on Ancestry for this couple which shows George's parents as Hugh Dransfield & Sarah Smith & Mary's as Alfred Chappell & Jennet Kilner (marriage 1873 - Janet Kilner)

Both George & Mary b 1874 - George  in Thurlstone & Mary in Hoylandswaine. 

Which of their children are you descended from?
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Re: Dransfield/Kilner Hoylandswaine
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 20:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the speedy reply. That is the info I have but my cousin seems to think Mary was Mary Jane Kilner from family of Arthur Kilner . I'm descended from Lena and  Frank Burkinshaw.

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Re: Dransfield/Kilner Hoylandswaine
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 20:46 BST (UK) »
Lena Dransfield was b 1897 and GRO shows mmn as Kilner

Buying a copy of the 1895 marriage cert will show Mary's fathers name

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Re: Dransfield/Kilner Hoylandswaine
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 20:56 BST (UK) »
The Mary Kilner b 1873 Wortley was illegitimate

Mary Ann Kilner b 1874 Wortley - mmn was Senior - James Kilner/Hannah Senior marriage 1872 Wortley

Where did you get Mary Jane from?  She was born Barnsley 1875.  Hoylandswaine came under Wortley RD
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Re: Dransfield/Kilner Hoylandswaine
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 21:40 BST (UK) »
It was my cousin who thought it was Mary Jane, but when I cross referenced the marriage indexes I found that George married Mary not Mary Jane. I'm going to have to get the marriage certificate to confirm what I think. If she's the right one,  I've found her in the 1891 census she's living with her mum and the family have adopted the name of Chappell, although I haven't found a marriage for her mum yet. Thanks for your time and help

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Re: Dransfield/Kilner Hoylandswaine
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 21:49 BST (UK) »
See my first reply re Chappell/Kilner marriage

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DG7-598

Both Mary's birth & the marriage were in the September qtr 1873
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Re: Dransfield/Kilner Hoylandswaine
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 01:26 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.  :)

I've found her in the 1891 census she's living with her mum and the family

In 1881 Mary is listed as KILNER:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Y-H453

Could be Jennet/Janet in 1851, 1861, 1871:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SP98-L6N

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7KC-1WX

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBCN-YN7

Janet/Jennet’s mother was not married:

KILNER, JAMES       - 
GRO Reference: 1840  J Quarter in WORTLEY UNION  Volume 22  Page 729
Married: Mar 1872 Wortley 9c 211
KILNER James
SENIOR Hannah
Deaths:
KILNER, JAMES  45 
GRO Reference: 1886  M Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 150
KILNER, HANNAH  81 
GRO Reference: 1931  J Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 682
1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZG5-S4W
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Y-H4CC
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7NF1-SPZ
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PN-LZR
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWKL-ZM5
Children:
KILNER, ERNEST mmn SENIOR 
GRO Reference: 1872  S Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 203
KILNER, MARY  ANN mmn SENIOR 
GRO Reference: 1874  M Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 237
KILNER, NOVELLS mmn SENIOR 
GRO Reference: 1876  M Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 258
KILNER, AMANDA mmn SENIOR
1878 Jun Quarter in ROTHERHAM 9c 663
KILNER, THERESA mmn SENIOR 
GRO Reference: 1881  D Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 245
KILNER, FANNY mmn SENIOR 
GRO Reference: 1884  M Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 257
KILNER, RACHEL  ETHEL mmn SENIOR 
GRO Reference: 1885  S Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 249

KILNER, JANET       - 
GRO Reference: 1844  J Quarter in WORTLEY UNION  Volume 22  Page 719

KILNER, JOSHUA       - 
GRO Reference: 1851  S Quarter in WORTLEY AND PENISTONE  Volume 22  Page 828
Death: KILNER, JOSHUA  66 
GRO Reference: 1917  S Quarter in PENISTONE  Volume 09C  Page 282

KILNER, WILLIAM       - 
GRO Reference: 1856  J Quarter in WORTLEY AND PENISTONE  Volume 09C  Page 167
Married: Dec 1875 Bramley 9b 558
KILNER William
AUDIN Sarah
Deaths:
KILNER, SARAH  42 
GRO Reference: 1898  M Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 164
KILNER, WILLIAM  58 
GRO Reference: 1914  M Quarter in BARNSLEY  Volume 09C  Page 286
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Y-HHL8
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7F5M-3T2
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X95H-K66
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWKM-ZC9
Children:
KILNER, JAMES  EDWARD mmn AUDIN 
GRO Reference: 1879  M Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 269
KILNER, ANNIE  ELIZABETH mmn AUDIN 
GRO Reference: 1885  S Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 249
KILNER, WILLIE mmn AUDIN 
GRO Reference: 1888  S Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 255
KILNER, NORMAN mmn AUDIN 
GRO Reference: 1890  J Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 254

The grandchild on the 1861:

KILNER, MELINA       - 
GRO Reference: 1860  M Quarter in WORTLEY AND PENISTONE  Volume 09C  Page 167

The lodger on the 1861:

PINDER, ARTHUR mmn CHAPPEL 
GRO Reference: 1860  S Quarter in WORTLEY AND PENISTONE  Volume 09C  Page 162

Mother’s death: KILNER, MARY  53 
GRO Reference: 1869  D Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 127
Christening: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5JB-99Z
1841 with her folks and two youngest children: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQPV-F39

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Re: Dransfield/Kilner Hoylandswaine
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 July 20 02:06 BST (UK) »
Children from 1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7FPR-DPZ

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X95H-N5N

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWKQ-9PQ

KILNER, ANNE       - 
GRO Reference: 1868  S Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 197
Married: Sep 1897 Wortley 9c 353
MORTIMER Ellis
KILNER Annie
Death: ELLIS, MORTIMER  81 
GRO Reference: 1952  J Quarter in STAINCROSS  Volume 02D  Page 428
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X95H-N5D
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWKQ-9PH
Children:
KILNER, MARIA       - 
GRO Reference: 1889  J Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 276
ELLIS, ALBERT  MORTIMER mmn KILNER 
GRO Reference: 1899  M Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 312
ELLIS, EDITH mmn KILNER 
GRO Reference: 1908  M Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 341

KILNER, ALBERT       - 
GRO Reference: 1871  J Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 204
Death: KILNER, ALBERT  23 
GRO Reference: 1894  D Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 143

KILNER, MARY       - 
GRO Reference: 1873  S Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 206

CHAPPELL, EMILY mmn PULNER 
GRO Reference: 1875  S Quarter in OF WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 244
Married: Sep 1898 Wortley 9c 387
WILKINSON Thomas Irvin
CHAPPELL Emily
Death: WILKINSON, THOMAS  ERVIN  73 
GRO Reference: 1947  D Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD  Volume 02B  Page 663
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W7HH-NVMM
Possible death: WILKINSON, EMILY  76 
GRO Reference: 1952  J Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD  Volume 02B  Page 665
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X95H-J45
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWKQ-979
Children:
WILKINSON, ERVIN mmn CHAPPELL 
GRO Reference: 1900  M Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 305
WILKINSON, EDGAR mmn CHAPPELL 
GRO Reference: 1902  J Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 309
WILKINSON, ERNEST mmn CHAPPELL 
GRO Reference: 1906  S Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 317

CHAPPELL, FRED mmn KILNER 
GRO Reference: 1878  J Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 282
Married: I can’t see. Still with folks in 1911.
Death: CHAPPELL, FRED  64 
GRO Reference: 1943  D Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 383

CHAPPEL, MELINDA mmn KILNER 
GRO Reference: 1880  M Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 260
Death: CHAPPELL, MALINDA  15 
GRO Reference: 1895  S Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 191

CHAPPELL, CLARA mmn KILNER 
GRO Reference: 1884  S Quarter in WORTLEY  Volume 09C  Page 263
Possible marriage: Dec 1911 Penistone 9c 553
CROSSLAND Nathan
CHAPPELL Clara
Possible deaths: CROSSLAND, CLARA  53 
GRO Reference: 1937  S Quarter in PENISTONE  Volume 09C  Page 235
CROSSLAND, NATHAN  66 
GRO Reference: 1953  M Quarter in STAINCROSS  Volume 02D  Page 591
Possible children:
CROSSLAND, CLARENCE mmn CHAPPELL 
GRO Reference: 1912  J Quarter in PENISTONE  Volume 09C  Page 674
CROSSLAND, RAYMOND mmn CHAPPELL 
GRO Reference: 1913  J Quarter in PENISTONE  Volume 09C  Page 707
CROSSLAND, PHYLLIS  CHAPPELL mmn CHAPPELL 
GRO Reference: 1914  D Quarter in PENISTONE  Volume 09C  Page 677
CROSSLAND, IRIS mmn CHAPPELL 
GRO Reference: 1916  D Quarter in PENISTONE  Volume 09C  Page 557
CROSSLAND, RONALD mmn CHAPPELL 
GRO Reference: 1917  D Quarter in PENISTONE  Volume 09C  Page 527
CROSSLAND, JOYCE mmn CHAPPELL 
GRO Reference: 1918  S Quarter in HEMSWORTH  Volume 09C  Page 347
CROSSLAND, CLIFFORD C mmn CHAPPELL
Dec 1919 PENISTONE 9c 732
CROSSLAND, Colin mmn CHAPPELL
Sep 1920 WORTLEY 9c 669
CROSSLAND, Elsie mmn CHAPPELL
Jun 1921 PENISTONE 9c 716
CROSSLAND, Gladys M mmn CHAPPELL
Jun 1925 PENISTONE 9c 618

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