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Re: James Arthur Fisher - Was he a Captain or not ?
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 23 July 20 12:10 BST (UK) »
Mckha489  -  thank you  - and thank you for giving the details as I do not have access to Findmypast website.   It confirms what was said in the newspaper reports in 1940.

ShaunJ  -  Now did it say Widow at all for Gertrude Ellen Fisher?!   

He is listed as a being present in Kyambu District, Kenya in 1922, listed a a jurer there  in 1925.
Which way was a he travelling in 1923 ?

Then in 1926 a court case in England where he was given 4 months imprisonment.  Interesting these aliases are listed in Police Gazette :   (Provided already here)

APPREHENSIONS SOUGHT. METROPOLITAN POLICE DISTRICT
 For obtaining  £ 50 by worthless cheque.—
James Arthur Fisher,    Aliases:   Major J. A. Fisher, Capt. C. K. Fisher,
Capt. G. L. Wylie, Capt. George Fennick, Captain C. K. Fisher- Rowe, Capt. George Renwick and Captain Anderson, CRO No. 2931-17.

But no mention of James Annesley Fisher.


ASTON, Birmingham : TWIST, B.ham: HUNT, B.ham: LAYTON, Worcestershire: LAYTON, B.ham: BISHOP, Leic.: TYSALL, B.ham: BURLEY,B.ham: SCOTT,B.ham: FISHER, B.ham : PRICHARD,Wales: BEARD,Worc. : SCHREDER, USA

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Re: James Arthur Fisher - Was he a Captain or not ?
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 23 July 20 12:24 BST (UK) »
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Travelling From Cape Town. Per “Briton” departure 5 Jan 1923


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Re: James Arthur Fisher - Was he a Captain or not ?
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 23 July 20 12:27 BST (UK) »
I don’t know about this one.
The original is blurry. major J. a. And Mrs Belle Fisher?
Departure, Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date:   7 Jun 1920
Port of Arrival:   Southampton, England


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Re: James Arthur Fisher - Was he a Captain or not ?
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 23 July 20 13:08 BST (UK) »
I am now asking, was he ever a Major ?    Or is that just another of his ideas of grandeur ?

I would like to get the marriage cert. or details from cert, for the marriage of his daughter Mary Annersely Fisher in 1949 to see what is put for her father !
ASTON, Birmingham : TWIST, B.ham: HUNT, B.ham: LAYTON, Worcestershire: LAYTON, B.ham: BISHOP, Leic.: TYSALL, B.ham: BURLEY,B.ham: SCOTT,B.ham: FISHER, B.ham : PRICHARD,Wales: BEARD,Worc. : SCHREDER, USA


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Re: James Arthur Fisher - Was he a Captain or not ?
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 23 July 20 13:10 BST (UK) »
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ShaunJ  -  Now did it say Widow at all for Gertrude Ellen Fisher?


In 1953 she is a housewife aged 57, had been living in Kenya, intending to stay in England permanently. In First Class.

In 1957 (not 1956 as I said earlier) she is "single widowed or divorced" born 13 November 1895, an artist, in First Class. Intending to stay in UK for 12 months.
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Re: James Arthur Fisher - Was he a Captain or not ?
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 23 July 20 13:24 BST (UK) »
I believe my JAF was born 17/2/1891.

If this is his birth date then his parents left it very late to register his birth, as the GRO indexes show his birth was registered in the June quarter of 1891, i.e. sometime between 1 April and 30 June, 1891. From 18 February to 31 March is 42 days, which is the legal limit for registering a birth in England following birth. 

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Re: James Arthur Fisher - Was he a Captain or not ?
« Reply #69 on: Thursday 23 July 20 13:38 BST (UK) »
ShaunJ  -  Those details about Gertrude are very interesting.

CraigM63  -  JAF's birth was registered in 1891 Kings Norton.   It was his baptism in 1894, along with sister Beatrice.  Not so unusual to have baptism some years after the birth.
ASTON, Birmingham : TWIST, B.ham: HUNT, B.ham: LAYTON, Worcestershire: LAYTON, B.ham: BISHOP, Leic.: TYSALL, B.ham: BURLEY,B.ham: SCOTT,B.ham: FISHER, B.ham : PRICHARD,Wales: BEARD,Worc. : SCHREDER, USA

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Re: James Arthur Fisher - Was he a Captain or not ?
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 23 July 20 13:49 BST (UK) »
I know that, but the registration of the birth is a legal requirement that is quite separate from baptism. Legally all births in England must be registered within 42 days of birth with the GRO. Baptism can occur at any point after birth, and I have cases in my own trees where baptism took place 10 years after birth. The fact that his birth was registered with the GRO in the June quarter of 1891, when he was born on 17 February 1891 means that his birth was registered outside of the legally required 42 day period. 

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Re: James Arthur Fisher - Was he a Captain or not ?
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 23 July 20 14:23 BST (UK) »
I am now asking, was he ever a Major ?    Or is that just another of his ideas of grandeur ?

No -  https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/31563/page/11788 relinquished his commission September 1919.

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