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Re: William Verner Gilpin Armagh Loughgall
« Reply #9 on: Friday 24 July 20 19:28 BST (UK) »
Party 1 Name   JAMES GILPIN
Party 2 Name   LOUISA STUART
Date of Event   30 October 1901
SR District/Reg Area   Dungannon

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10325/5758684.pdf

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Re: William Verner Gilpin Armagh Loughgall
« Reply #10 on: Friday 24 July 20 20:26 BST (UK) »
Daughter Jane born 8th October 1865 at Copney.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03555/2308896.pdf

She was married? to George Dever (in Pittsburgh, an electric car conductor). Her son George (Verner Gilpin?) was born in 1892 at Copney. The informant was his grandfather William Verner Gilpin (the occupier) at Copney.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02361/1881762.pdf

Verner Gilpin is on both the 1901 and 1911 census at Copney.

Eliza Jane Gilpin passed away on the 25th January 1912 at Copney. The informant was Verner G Dever (her grandson).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05376/4499503.pdf

Verner G Dever married Rebecca Weir in 1913. He gave his father as George Dever, a gas inspector.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09886/5591481.pdf

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Edited to add:
Daughter Doreen Winifred Dever born 1917
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01315/1543645.pdf

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Re: William Verner Gilpin Armagh Loughgall
« Reply #11 on: Friday 24 July 20 22:11 BST (UK) »
This was a tree that may have come from a Canadian Gilpin researcher.  I haven't checked to see if the above comments agree with the tree.  Some, not all,  of the records are at Seagoe and his family was at Balteagh.
Descendants of Dynes Gilpin
         
   1     Dynes Gilpin   
..      +Jane?   
........   2     Dynes Gilpin   1766 -
........   2     Thomas Gilpin   1767 -
........   2     William Gilpin   1767 -
........   2     Henry Gilpin   1768 -
........   2     George Gilpin   1768 -
........   2     Jane Gilpin   1771 -
........   2     Richard Gilpin   1773 -
............      +Elizabeth   
...................   3     William Verner Gilpin   
.......................      +Eliza Jane Gilpin   
.............................   4     Jane Gilpin   1865 -
.............................   4     Rachel Gilpin   1868 -
.............................   4     Richard Gilpin   1871 -
.............................   4     Elizabeth Gilpin   1873 -
.............................   4     James Gilpin   1876 -
...................   3     Isabel Gilpin   1809 -
...................   3     Margaret Gilpin   1815 -
...................   3     Judith Gilpin   1818 -
...................   3     Richard Gilpin   1822 -
.......................      +Deborah Robinson   
.............................   4     Richard Gilpin   1850 -
.................................      +Mary Elizabeth McConnell   
.............................   4     Eliza Jane Gilpin   1851 -
.............................   4     Mathew Gilpin   1853 -
.............................   4     Elizabeth Gilpin   1855 -
.................................      +Thomas Emerson   
.............................      *2nd Husband of Elizabeth Gilpin:   
.................................      +Youngson Somerville   1834 - 1907
........................................   5     Elizabeth Somerville   1867 -
.............................   4     John Gilpin   1859 -
.............................   4     Isabella Gilpin   1861 -
.............................   4     Mary Gilpin   1862 -
.............................   4     Richard Gilpin   1864 -
.............................   4     Samuel James Gilpin   1864 -

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Re: William Verner Gilpin Armagh Loughgall
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 25 July 20 00:52 BST (UK) »
Missing a daughter ... Margaret born 1880 is the grandmother to my husband's cousin in Annaghmore.  She married William David Murdock in 1907. Their daughter Ruby is his mother.  If you've done your DNA, you should be a relatively close match.


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Re: William Verner Gilpin Armagh Loughgall
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 25 July 20 00:54 BST (UK) »
I have William Verner Gilpin's parents as Richard Gilpin & Dinah Thompson.

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Re: William Verner Gilpin Armagh Loughgall
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 25 July 20 01:05 BST (UK) »
Thank you!  You guys are the best!  Lots of info here to digest.

Laura

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Re: William Verner Gilpin Armagh Loughgall
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 25 July 20 10:02 BST (UK) »
Missing a daughter ... Margaret born 1880 is the grandmother to my husband's cousin in Annaghmore.  She married William David Murdock in 1907. Their daughter Ruby is his mother.  If you've done your DNA, you should be a relatively close match.

There were actually two Margarets born in 1880 and 1882 respectively. I can't find the death of the first one  :-\
Margaret Gilpin 1880
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02876/2053715.pdf
Margaret Gilpin 1882
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02763/2014540.pdf

When Margaret marries William Murdock in 1907, her age is 24 so born 82/83.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10086/5668923.pdf

KG

Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: William Verner Gilpin Armagh Loughgall
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 25 July 20 14:11 BST (UK) »
Hi

There is also a son of William's,  David who married Lilly Miller.

The above family outline has Isabella (my gggrand) as the daughter of Richard.  I've been working her as the eldest of William for the following reasons:

1.  Her death certificate lists her father as Wm V. Gilpin;
2.  Her obit (1915) lists surviving siblings as David from Patterson, NJ and James from Ireland;
3.  She was institutionalized in 1905, her intake papers suggest her parents are still alive at that time which Wm and Eliza are and that she has 3 brothers and 4 sisters.

I have not been able to find a marriage license from her marriage to Thomas Wilson to get some collaboration.

However, another concern I have is that  Mary Gilpin McClelland, m to Richard McCelland and living in Patterson, NJ raised Isabella's youngest daughter once she was institutionalized.  I've always assumed Mary was her sister.
 Above she is listed as a daughter of Richard.  However, my Mary has a birth date of Feb 14, 1860 per her passport.  I am trying to find her marriage cert to hopefully get some confirmation.

Again, thank you all so much!  All of this are new leads to investigate!!

Laura