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Offline MaureeninNY

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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #18 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:27 BST (UK) »
What about:
1901 census
Emma Scott Head Widow Female 54 1847 - Rothbury, Northumberland, England
Jane Scott Daughter Single Female 20 1881 Confectioner's Shop Assistant Alnwick, Northumberland, England
James B Scott Grand Son Single Male 13 1888 - Glororum, Northumberland, England
William Scott Grand Son Single Male 8 1893 - Northumberland, England
4788/ 162/ 8

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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #19 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:29 BST (UK) »
Just looking at the same family!

Emma was the widow of James Scott, looking at earlier censuses
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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #20 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:39 BST (UK) »
William Scott Grand Son Single Male 8 1893 - Northumberland, England

That William and this William....


At this site -
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/

search....William SCOTT 26/969......  for WW1 file

William SCOTT Hawarth Cottage Ngaio....born England
NOK Mrs Emma SCOTT Hawarth Cottage  (mother)
amended to...26 Hospital Street Wellington
amended to ..Mrs Sydney SMITH  26 **mandel Rd Wellington


...are most likely the same person.  His service record gives a date of birth as 2 Feb 1893 at Newcastle upon Tyne.

Debra  :)

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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #21 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:48 BST (UK) »
What about:
1901 census
Emma Scott Head Widow Female 54 1847 - Rothbury, Northumberland, England
Jane Scott Daughter Single Female 20 1881 Confectioner's Shop Assistant Alnwick, Northumberland, England
James B Scott Grand Son Single Male 13 1888 - Glororum, Northumberland, England
William Scott Grand Son Single Male 8 1893 - Northumberland, England
4788/ 162/ 8

Hope you don’t mind - young William’s birthplace is actually given as Northumberland, New Hirst.

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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #22 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:53 BST (UK) »
What about:
1901 census
Emma Scott Head Widow Female 54 1847 - Rothbury, Northumberland, England
Jane Scott Daughter Single Female 20 1881 Confectioner's Shop Assistant Alnwick, Northumberland, England
James B Scott Grand Son Single Male 13 1888 - Glororum, Northumberland, England
William Scott Grand Son Single Male 8 1893 - Northumberland, England
4788/ 162/ 8

Hope you don’t mind - young William’s birthplace is actually given as Northumberland, New Hirst.

Hirst would be in Woodhorn parish, which was in Morpeth RD
Which leads possibly to William Scott, 1st q 1893, Morpeth 10b 149, no mother’s  maiden name given.
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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #23 on: Monday 27 July 20 17:11 BST (UK) »
William's birth in Hirst fits with the family being there in 1891 (RG12 / 4260/34/1)
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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #24 on: Monday 27 July 20 17:20 BST (UK) »
Scott's arriving in NZ in Dec 1907? On the Fifeshire
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRS8-MZ?i=3&cc=1609792

Father of some of the children could have been Edward Scott?

Will of Emma Scott, proved Wellington, 1929
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9GB-GGM6?i=676&cc=1865481

As per army record, James died 4.3.1967
Death registered as James Bruce Summers, age 78.

Sorry if any of this is wrong!

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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #25 on: Monday 27 July 20 17:27 BST (UK) »
SCOTT, JAMES  BREWIS     
Mother's Maiden Surname:
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in CASTLE WARD  Volume 10B  Page 281

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Re: Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??
« Reply #26 on: Monday 27 July 20 17:45 BST (UK) »
Was about to post passenger list that Jon posted. Just to add I think Mary ( maiden name Buck)  is the daughter in law of Emma Scott and was married to Edward Scott and mother of Edna, James and Ruth. Edward is showing as a police constable in the 1901 census.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS9Q-KSM

Also note that ages for Mary and Jane are showing slightly differently on the outgoing passenger list from Liverpool - Jane is 27 and Mary, showing there as Mary E is 32.

William
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)